[asa] Otherness

From: Jim Armstrong <jarmstro@qwest.net>
Date: Wed Mar 14 2007 - 17:14:41 EDT

Since the matter of a bicameral brain has come up, it seems to me that
one of the byproducts of the development of a bicameral brain must be a
sense of "otherness" at some level, even if not necessarily conscious.
The two halves process pretty independently, and then "talk" about the
results. Just to make this short, I wonder if the tensions and
communication between the two hemispheres, and such an accompanying
(though not well articulated) sense of otherness might reflect a
continuing development of an historic emergent sense (or awareness) of
external otherness. I'm not trying to explain away God, but poke at a
possible way that emergent sense of a deific presence might unfold in an
evolutionary context.

It would seem that a sense of "self" and "other" are necessarily
intertwined. If there is no sense of "other", then there can be no
sense of God. ...or so it seemeth to me. JimA

drsyme@cablespeed.com wrote:

> I will say if that is about that. The bicameral mind results in
> "handendness". Glenn has evidence of handedness well back in the
> past, so this would support his view.
>
> But language is also dependant on the bicameral mind. I am saying
> that there is something about language, and it would likely be a later
> development, that eventually leads to true humaness. In other words a
> bicameral mind is necessary but not sufficient.
>
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:54:46 GMT
> "burgytwo@juno.com" <burgytwo@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> Jack wrote: "I have been reluctant to accept Glenn's idea for two
>> reasons, the first being that the indicators of the bible are clear I
>> think, that Adam was Neolithic, and secondly because he has not
>> convinced me that ancient evidence for burial, etc is the same as
>> being made in God's image."
>>
>> Of course Glenn has many more "human-like evidences" on his web site -
>> - grave goods is just one of these. As for what scripture says, I
>> cannot agree that the "indicators are clear." That seems to be quite
>> a stretch.
>>
>> Jack continues: "I have been kicking around the idea in my head that
>> being made in God's image means capacity for abstract language."
>> An interesting idea. There is some evidence that some chimps have
>> this capacity also. But it is not persuasive (to me).
>> There is an interesting book by a Jaynes, a Yale(?) professor, The
>> Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind -
>> something about consciousness coming into being when the mind split
>> into two halves. How to fit the good professor's thesis into the
>> question is something I have not thought through.
>>
>> Burgy
>>
>> www.burgy.50megs.com/convert.htm The conversion of CS Lewis
>>
>>
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