Re: [asa] Question for all the theistic evolutionists

*A rebuttal to this -- perhaps early hominids had
thick body hair. Or maybe the climate then was mild. Or maybe they
migrated there only in the summer.*

Or maybe the presence of some characteristics that we recognize as "human"
don't define what it means to be a human being made in the image of God.
Maybe the entire enterprise of defining the image of God in terms of such
characteristics is misplaced. It seems clear from scripture that there are
other personal beings -- angels and demons -- that share some
characteristics with humans (e.g., an ability to reason and communicate, a
moral sense, an ability to relate with each other, with human beings, and
with God, and even to appear in human-like form) but that are not "human."
Calling angels not "human" doesn't suggest any denigration of those
beings -- indeed, Psalm 8 and Hebrews 2 suggest the opposite. Why is it
impossible to imagine a race or races of beings -- Neanderthals, early homo
sapiens, whatever -- that share many relational and spiritual
characteristics with us humans but that are not human?

On 3/13/07, burgytwo@juno.com <burgytwo@juno.com> wrote:
>
> Glenn writes: "If coalescence times are 5.5 million years, that
> means we can't have had a genetic/populational bottleneck, as the
> Bible requires for the past 5 million years. If one believes that
> humanity came from a very small population of people, either 2 or 5,
> then current ID and TE views which hold that humanity arose in the
> last 200 kyr are as laughably wrong as the YEC views of a 6000 year
> old earth. And it means that the ID's and TE's are doing exactly what
> the YECs are doing--ignoring data on the age of something! They deny
> the age of the earth, ID's and TE's deny the age of human genes. So,
> I would conclude that I see ID and most TE views doing the same thing
> as YEC--making us look silly, stupid, and in denial of the data."
>
> Glenn's argument above, and his vast amount of data on evidences of
> human-like activity stretching back 2MY and more, is -- to my mind --
> impressive evidence for his position. The 350KY evidences of grave
> goods (see his site) is just one such piece of data. There are lots
> more. I have never seen any rebuttal to his data. For purposes of
> teaching a SS class, I tried to develop rebuttals to some of the
> data. For instance, the presence of humanity in cold climates at a
> very long ago date argues for the use of clothing, a human
> characteristic. A rebuttal to this -- perhaps early hominids had
> thick body hair. Or maybe the climate then was mild. Or maybe they
> migrated there only in the summer.
>
> I developed other such rebuttals. They all seemed very ad hoc, and
> were not at all persuasive that Glenn's data was misleading. The book
> WHEN ELEPHANTS WEEP (see review below) suggested that some "human"
> attributes might be shared by lower life forms. But even that book
> did little to challenge Glenn's thesis.
>
> My 3rd post today -- so it is time to be quiet.
>
> Burgy
>
> www.burgy.50megs.com/weep.htm
>
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