Re: [asa] Dobson

If the quote is in fact misrepresented / manufactured, that is heinous. I
should say for the record that while I appreciate some of Focus' parenting
materials, I'm no fan of that organization or its methods when it comes to
politics. Did Cizik really endorse that book?

On 3/5/07, Rich Blinne <rich.blinne@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 3/5/07, David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Well, it was pretty stupid of Cizik to mention population control. That
> > feeds the worst fears of folks like Dobson. Frankly, it scares me as well,
> > and I think Dobson's comment about forced abortion and infanticide in China
> > is right on point. Christian environmentalists need to acknowledge that the
> > environmental movement was dead wrong about the "population explosion" and
> > must distance Christian responses to problems like gobal warming from the
> > "secular" environmental movement's untoward emphasis on population control.
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> I've tried to run down this quote and its provenance is dodgy. It comes
> from an e-mail from an AEI member. I could find no transcripts or evidence
> that this meeting ever happened. The Christian blog, Bene Diction Blogs On,
> ran into similar problems:
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> > *As far as I can tell the Cizik quote from the World Bank Sustainable
> > Development Forum was first trotted out at the Focus on the Family Value
> > Voters 2006 Summit by Oklahoma Senator **James Inhofe*<http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:KTWu6sQPfoQJ:www.talk2action.org/story/2006/9/25/12463/2968+Rev.+Richard+Cizik+Word+Bank&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=ca>
> > *. I cannot find a transcript of the World Bank Forum (May 2006) online
> > to put Rev. Cizik's quote in context.*
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> Bene Diction and Christianity Today may have found the real reason for the
> hostility:
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> > *Christianity Today has noted Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family
> > wants Rev. Richard Cizik fired for endorsing **this book*<http://www.religionnews.com/press02/PR022707.html>
> > *.* [THE JESUS MACHINE How James Dobson, Focus on the Family,* *and
> > Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War]
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> What made Dobson so mad?
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> > "Gilgoff is a writer and journalist of the first rank... This is a book
> > that evangelicals, as well as the critics of our movement, should surely
> > read."
> > RICHARD CIZIK, CHIEF LOBBYIST, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EVANGELICALS
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> You have this quote being passed only by two hostile witnesses so I looked
> to see if Cizik talked about this topic at some other time and I did find
> something here. Cizik has talked on the record about this and here is what
> he told the New York Times magazine:
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> > ""Creation care'' sounds like a division of Medicare."
> > It's still better than environmentalism.
> >
> > "What is wrong with that term?"
> > "It's not the term. It's the environmentalists themselves. I was
> > recently speaking with the leadership of the Sierra Club and the National
> > Wildlife Federation, and I told them, 'Gentlemen, I respect you, but at this
> > point don't plan on any formal collaborations.'"
> >
> > "Why? Because they lean to the left?"
> > "Environmentalists have a bad reputation among evangelical Christians
> > for four reasons. One, they rely on big-government solutions. Two, their
> > alliance with population-control movements. Three, they keep kooky religious
> > company."
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> > "What is your idea of a kooky religion?"
> > "Some environmentalists are pantheists who believe creation itself is
> > holy, not the Creator."
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> > "And what's No. 4?"
> > "There's a certain gloom and doom about environmentalists. They tend to
> > prophecies of doom that don't happen. Look at the movie 'The Day After
> > Tomorrow,' in which New York City freezes
> >
> *over."
> That doesn't sound like someone who is pro-population control to me and he
> did what you asked Christian environmentalists to do in that interview.
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Received on Mon Mar 5 22:10:36 2007