Re: [asa] The tomb of Jesus?

Another good link with various resources about the film's claims:
http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/26/the-jesustalpiot-tomb-around-the-blogosphere/

On 2/27/07, David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *But I also understand that the statistician that worked on
> > the film Andrey Feuerverger, is planning on publishing his
> > results in a peer reviewed journal. Would that make any
> > difference to any of us *?
>
> I think what will be most interesting is to see, when Feuerverger
> publishes, exactly what he claims, and then too see whether there are
> responses in the literature. As I understand his statistics, *at most *he
> is establishing the likelihood of a particular cluster of names appearing
> together, out of a population of about 2,500 names known from ossuaries and
> inscriptions found in tombs around Jerusalem, adjusting for tombs around
> Jerusalem that are lost or undiscovered. Interesting and provocative,
> maybe, but hardly conclusive of anything concerning Jesus of Nazareth whose
> family didn't come from near Jerusalem, and whose family from all we know
> didn't have the resources to afford a stone family tomb. It seems like a
> classic instance of sampling the wrong universe. A real comparison would
> have to include the prevalence of such a cluster of names among Jews of
> Jesus' class in the area where Jesus lived.
>
> On 2/27/07, drsyme@cablespeed.com <drsyme@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> > That is an interesting point, and one that I have been
> > thinking about the past couple of days. And it is
> > probably why things like this are largely ignored by
> > people like us.
> >
> > However, we are going to have to be familiar with this
> > film and its contents in order to discuss this with fellow
> > christians, fellow scientists, skeptics, atheists, etc.
> >
> > But I also understand that the statistician that worked on
> > the film Andrey Feuerverger, is planning on publishing his
> > results in a peer reviewed journal. Would that make any
> > difference to any of us?
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:19:14 -0500
> > "David Opderbeck" <dopderbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > There is an interesting little irony to this whole
> > >thing. The filmmakers
> > > shunned peer review, opting instead for a popular book
> > >and film; evidence
> > > was not handled properly and the conventional scientific
> > >methods appropriate
> > > to the relevant discipline were not followed; sweeping
> > >proof claims are
> > > being asserted prior to any academic debate; experts who
> > >have been working
> > > in the field for many years and have first-hand
> > >knowledge of the
> > > evidence are dismissive of the claims; seemingly
> > >devastating contrary facts
> > > are being ignored and/or rationalized away; and some
> > >scientific-sounding
> > > stuff relating to DNA and statistics is being thrown in
> > >the mixer to support
> > > the novel claims. And we Christians are now the ones
> > >having to confront the
> > > psuedo-science! Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.
> > >
> > > On 2/27/07, Ted Davis <TDavis@messiah.edu> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> For interesting comments from Israel, go here:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1171894527177
>
> > >>
> > >> ted
> > >>
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