Re: [asa] Mandatory HPV vaccination

Correction: I meant to say: "...whether or not a girl has been vaccinated will not impact whether they choose to engage in sex or not."
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  From: Jack
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  Subject: Re: [asa] Mandatory HPV vaccination

  And funding it only for married women would make it essentially ineffective since it needs to be given before sexual activity begins. Lets face the truth, sexual activity begins long before marriage in the vast majority of cases, even among children from Christian backgrounds, lets be honest about that. And I still say that whether or not a girl has been vaccinated will impact whether or not they choose to engage in sex or not.

  Bill Hamilton was the one that gave examples of women that could be exposed without engaging in immoral sexual behavior.
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    From: David Opderbeck
    To: Charles Carrigan
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    Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [asa] Mandatory HPV vaccination

    Hmmm... Charles, I do sympathize somewhat with what you're saying. I should say that I haven't really thought about this carefully enough to have a firm opinion on state funding. It does strike me, though, as a difficult balance, particularly as it's a women's health issue. As Jack noted, some women could be put at risk who are not engaged in immoral sexual behavior, and it would be very difficult for a variety of reasons to fund the vaccine only for married women.

    On 2/6/07, Charles Carrigan <ccarriga@olivet.edu> wrote:
      David,

      I'm surprised at your statement that state funding pay for a vaccine that you consider unncessary for all individuals. If the vaccine is voluntary, why should the state pay for it?

      I know very little of this disease, except that it is a virus that causes a form of cancer in women. But if what you say is true, then personally I think if the disease cannot be tranmitted by ordinary social contact then a mandatory vaccine is a big unnecessary expense. And if it is voluntary and unnecessary for individuals based on sexual behavior, then state funding for it is innappropriate. We continue to create a culture where personal sexual behavior holds little to no personal responsibility.

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      Charles

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>>> "David Opderbeck" <dopderbeck@gmail.com> 02/06/07 7:03 PM >>>
      I think the problem is the mandatory nature of this executive order.
      Mandatory vaccinations for schoolchildren are appropriate for communicable
      diseases that are transmitted by ordinary social contact. It seems very
      different to me to require that kids be vaccinated against an STD. It does
      seem like the kind of thing families should decide for themselves. I could
      see maybe making state funding available for any family that chooses the
      vaccine.

      On 2/6/07, Bill Hamilton < williamehamiltonjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My wife and I had a discussion about this and she saw it as an invitation
> to
> girls to be sexually active. I pointed out that the vaccine only protected
> girls against cervical cancer, not against other STD's. Still, I couldn't
> see
> the value of it for girls raised in a Christian home who were taught not
> to
> have premarital sex. However, I soon realized that the vaccine _would_
> protect
> girls/women who
> 1. Were raped
> 2. Married men who were less than honest about their previous sexual
> activity
> 3. Were promiscuous in spite of their training (it _does_ happen)
>
> --- drsyme@cablespeed.com wrote:
>
> > Several states have pending legislation this year similar
> > to the Texas' Govenor's "Executive Order"
> >
> > Lots of potential areas of discussion about this topic.
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/02/D8N1PVG80.html
> >
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