Re: [asa] Roles of women

I've already advised others offline about this book (since I more than shot my
4 post wad yesterday -- please accept my apologies), however there seems to be
a considerablee interest inthis subject. I found a book several years ago that
anyone involved in a controversy over whether women should teach/lead ought to
read. It's "Beyond sex roles: What the Bible says about a woman's place in
church and family" by Gilbert Bilezekian. Published by Baker 1985.

Bilezikian is an emeritus professor at Wheaton College. He was instrumental in
helping Bill Hybels start Willow Creek Community Church.

You may not agree with his conclusions, but anyone who has encountered the
issue of women teaching/leading in the church ought to read this book.

--- Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> Acts 18 vs26
>
> Also Romans 16 vs 3 Prisca =Priscilla
> vs7 Junia or Julia which is a woman's name. "men" is not found in the Greek
> (inerrancy of autographs!)
>
> or do you follow 1 Cor 14 vs34 but that depends whether you translate lalein
> as speak/chatter or teach/proclaim
>
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Schneider
> To: Austerberry, Charles ; Janice Matchett ; asa@lists.calvin.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Roles of women
>
>
> When my wife began teaching courses in Scripture at Berea College in 1992
> she encountered students who believed that a woman should not be teaching the
> Bible, a practice forbidden in their churches.
>
> Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Austerberry, Charles
> To: Janice Matchett ; asa@lists.calvin.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] Roles of women
>
>
> I too cannot understand how teaching Hebrew can be considered "wearing
> the pants" as an "overseer." But I guess the SBC's position is that 1) a
> pastor is an overseer of sorts, and 2) theology teachers of
> pastors-in-training must be qualified to serve as pastors, and 3) teaching
> Hebrew is teaching theology.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Janice Matchett [mailto:janmatch@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:10 PM
> To: Austerberry, Charles; asa@lists.calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] Roles of women
>
>
> At 06:52 PM 1/30/2007, Austerberry, Charles wrote:
>
> Reasons (poor ones, generally) for restricting what women can do in the
> church range from hermeneutical to scientific. What strikes me is how
> scripture can become an idol, which can then lead to unfounded doctrines that
> are ungodly, in my opinion. Whether God chose to put inerrant history and
> science in the Bible should be a question resolved through open study, not a
> litmus-test doctrine. Likewise, whether St. Paul's attitude about women in
> roles of authority more reflects God's perspective or Paul's human cultural
> perspective ought to be an open question, not policy, in my opinion. This
> action of the SBC makes me sad, but it's consistent with many conservative
> denominations' actions towards biology professors who would teach evolution.
> At least women can teach biology (if not evolution) in SBC schools. But what
> if the SBC decides that pastors-to-be should learn some biology (imagine!) in
> SBC seminaries? Could women teach them biology, even though they can't teach
> Hebrew? Which has more significance for theology anyway?
>
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/012007dnmetnubaptists.176f48d.html
>
>
> Chuck Austerberry
> e-mail: cfauster@creighton.edu
> Nebraska Religious Coalition for Science Education
> http://nrcse.creighton.edu
>
>
> @ I don't think it has anything to do with "teaching", does it? It is
> unseemly for a woman to "wear the pants" as an "overseer" over her husband in
> the family or over God's flock in a church organization.
>
> Of course God did have to put a woman (Deborah) in charge of the army
> once since there were only male wusses available at that time from which to
> choose. :)
>
> ~ Janice
>
>

Bill Hamilton
William E. Hamilton, Jr., Ph.D.
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