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PvM wrote:

> Note that 1. the issue was not about censorship 2. the issue was not
> about religion per se.
>

It seems from the exchanges that 1. it is (though I'm not clear this is
a genuine case of censorship as such) and on 2. I was mainly
responding to what you said....

> When atheists start a movement which insists that science can show the
> absence of a designer, it is time to object similarly to such an abuse
> of science.

Actually, I don't think you actually mean what you said here. If this were
the case, then even "The Blind Watchmaker: why the evidence of
evolution reveals a universe without design" already meets what you
wrote without quoting another word. But I think what you meant to say
(and how I first read it) was "to prove God does not exist". But this is
also a little problematical these days with titles such as "The God
Delusion". I have not read this one, but so far, the comments from others
are consistent with my past impressions of his less strident
writings that I have read.

I've also spent some time on skeptic lists. I got enough of the view
that "the world will finally be a beautiful place if only we could lop out
that thing in the brain". Well, who knows, I suppose we wait on the
second coming, though at least we are trusting God and not man.
But as to lopping things off, I suppose castration may some benefits
too.

> Perhaps if you can quote from Dawkins then we can see what Dawkins et al.
> driving at.
>
>

Did you really see me as such a duff that I would dare to
comment on Dawkins without ever having read _at least_ one
of his books in my whole life?

Dawkins' objectives are no less obvious than Francis S. Collins'.
Of course I share more in common with the latter individual, but that
is still my own inclination. Each writer has the right to his own
intellectual
independence.

Here's a comment I stumbled on the web from what looks like an agnostic:
www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.11/atheism.html

by Grace we proceed,
Wayne

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Received on Sun Jan 28 09:56:31 2007