Re: [asa] God as Cause

David Campbell wrote: "...As George pointed out details of a mechanism...are lacking."

That is to say, no one has the foggiest notion about how God as a Spirit can work his will on matter.

We know that God can affect matter because he affects us, and we're made of matter. Even if there's a soul within that's not made of matter, that soul then affects our body, which in itself would imply that the nonmaterial can affect the material.

Knowledge that God affects us often can be quite explicit; sometimes we can be fully conscious of such effect. In fact, the Acts in several places indicates that it was abnormal in early NT times for Christians not to have vivid, conscious knowledge of God's influence on their persons. See Acts 8:14-16, 10:44-45, 19:1-6.

Don

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David Campbell<mailto:pleuronaia@gmail.com>
  To: asa@calvin.edu<mailto:asa@calvin.edu>
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [asa] God as Cause

  It may be worth noting that Intelligent Design needs to address the
  question just as much as theistic evolution needs to. Unless ID
  accepts the "punctuated deism" model in which God only works through
  occasional miracles and otherwise is not involved, the role of God in
  everyday events is an issue for ID.

  It's not hard to find statements in ID writings disavowing the
  punctuated deism model, but it's also not hard to find statements
  endorsing it (generally implicitly, often in the context of labeling
  TE as compromising with materialism).

  The Bible has plenty of statements that assert God's involvement in
  natural phenomena, but as George pointed out details of a mechanism as
  if it were a question of physics are lacking.

  --
  Dr. David Campbell
  425 Scientific Collections
  University of Alabama
  "I think of my happy condition, surrounded by acres of clams"

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Received on Tue Jan 16 10:34:23 2007