Re: [asa] Brick Wall

At 12:17 PM 12/29/2006, Michael Roberts wrote:
>
> J Matchett said; "You might say that the founders were free of
> political "original sin," and created a system that is about as
> close to perfection as humans can manage. The sin only came in
> later, eating away at the foundations of this noble country. What
> was it? What was the alien meme that entered the American
> bloodstream and infected half its inhabitants? ...."
>
>
>It started from the beginning by rejecting the monarchy and
>declaring independence in the first place. Our succession of Georges
>have been so much better!! ~ Michael

@ Whatever blows your skirts! The sort of constitution your
succession of "Georges" would have come up with can be found below:

"...Our founders knew with metaphysical _certitude_ that human
liberty could only have come from a creator, and that a creator
cannot be other than the Creator. For truth is one and liberty is a
condition of knowing it: no liberty, no truth, no truth, no liberty;
and there can be neither truth nor liberty unless it is principally
absolute, like the Creator from which they flow.

Imagine if this country were actually founded upon a wimpy rejection
of metaphysical certainty and the leftist embrace of relativism?

We hold these preliminary findings to be more or less accurate, at
least for now, that all cultures have equal validity, and that each
culture has its own ideas about rights and duties and so forth and so
on and blah blah blah. In our case, we have hit upon this idea -- no
offense, but we have this tentative idea -- subject to further
studies, of course -- that we would like the government -- that would
be your government -- to cut us some slack so that we can do what we
want to do -- basically acquire property and be happy, but not
limiting ourselves to that. Anyhoo, it is our culturally conditioned
idea that Governments -- not all of them, of course, but ours --
should actually derive their power from the people, although we have
respect and tolerance for the contrary view that you folks hold.
Nevertheless, some of our more headstrong citizens think that we
should be able to form a government based upon these vague hunches of
ours, which, after all, are as good as your hunches. No, that was
rude -- let's just say that our hunches are different than yours, and
leave it at that.... No one can presume to be a judge of whose
hunches are best.... At any rate, since, as the saying goes,
"different strokes for different folks"....

Friday, December 29, 2006 The Absurdity of Absolute
Relativity Complete commentary here: http://tinyurl.com/y6ah2g

~ Janice .... "...Look at Carl Sagan, for example. One of the
reasons he was such a popular figure is that -- his doctrinaire
atheism notwithstanding -- he successfully inspired a sense of wonder
in science geeks about the cosmos. One would be wrong to conclude
that this wonderment was simply a logical response to the objective
science. Rather, this sense of wonder is what inspired Sagan to
become a scientist to begin with, and it was infectious for billions
and billions of nerds -- perhaps even increasing their reproductive
fitness by making them slightly more appealing to women.
...." Saturday, December 30, 2006 New Year's Meditation: Edges,
Endings, and Eternal Beginnings Continue: http://tinyurl.com/y6ah2g

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