Re: [asa] Lets move beyond straw men and uninformed opinion

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>>> On 12/7/2006 at 4:44 AM, in message
<008901c719f1$2742a400$6df4cdd9@D9D1ZJ1J>,
"Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> This is a very wise post and I agree with what you say.
> 
> To list the problems of ID;
> 1. Political posing of Wells Johnson
> 2. Inaccurate content of writings by Wells and Johnson in particular.
There 
> is an honesty question here.
> 3. Refusal to come clean on the age of the earth
> 4 Willingness to associate too closely with YEC
> 5 (weaker) association with Right Wing agenda and weak on the
environment
> 6 Tendency to be god of the gaps
> 7 Tendency to be offensive to TEs
> 
> Points 1 and 2 are the most serious and remove all credibility from
ID.
> 
> Because of this I do not take any ID arguments seriously
> 
> Michael
Michael,
Please.  It is posts like this that made me start the thread.  May I
still consider you a brother in Christ and
someone whose opinion I should sometimes listen to in spite of the fact
that:
1. the Anglican church has some problems
2. I might not agree with everyone in your congregation (are any of
them YEC).
3. Britain has a parliamentary system of government. If you can object
to ID because some are right wing, this is fair.
I am sorry but I still associate also with some brothers in Christ that
are YEC.  Maybe I feel for why they take their position. 
I am saddened when you make the following statement:
> Points 1 and 2 are the most serious and remove all credibility from
ID.
> 
> Because of this I do not take any ID arguments seriously
You would categorize all ID folks including Behe and Dembski in the
same camp because you don't like Johnson or Wells.
I know I will run into both of you and Behe in heaven although neither
of you is Christian Reformed. Dembski's wife was Dutch so I had use
Behe.
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