RE: [asa] Random and design

At 10:45 AM 11/22/2006, Alexanian, Moorad wrote:

>How would you calculate the probability that a particular Armenian
>boy born in Havana, Cuba would marry a particular Armenian girl born
>in Providence, Rhode Island? There is a lot of info that would
>increase the probability calculated considerably by someone who knew
>that my mother wanted her children to go to the USA and always
>wanted her children to marry Armenians. Of course, there are more
>additional facts I can give. However, is there someone that knew
>more that would make the marriage inevitable? This without
>eliminating the free will of all involved. ~ Moorad

@ But even before that, how would you calculate that on August 1,
1620, the Mayflower set sail. It carried a total of 102 passengers,
including forty Pilgrims led by William Bradford. On the journey,
Bradford set up an agreement, a contract, that established ..." [snip]

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~ Janice

From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of David Opderbeck
>Sent: Wed 11/22/2006 9:04 AM
>To: Don Winterstein
>Cc: D. F. Siemens, Jr.; asa
>Subject: Re: [asa] Random and design
>
>If God is omniscient, omnipotent, and sovereign, I don't see why any
>of this is such a big deal. Of course, omniscient doesn't mean
>knowing things that don't exist or violate basic principles (such as
>the law of non-contradiction) and therefore can't be known,
>omnipotent doesn't mean being able to do things that are
>contradictory and nonsensical (like making a rock too big for God to
>lift), and sovereign doesn't mean mechanically dictatorial such that
>all freedom is excluded. But once you have a balanced and
>historical understanding of God's attributes, there's no problem
>with where God "stores all this info" or how He knows things that
>are undetermined according to QM. Mr. Beaver famously said Aslan
>isn't a "tame" lion; we could modernize it and say God isn't a
>computer with limited bandwidth and memory.
>
>On 11/22/06, Don Winterstein <dfwinterstein@msn.com> wrote: [snip]

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Received on Wed Nov 22 11:23:03 2006