Re: Re: Re: [asa] Apologetics Conference

But isnt the fine tuning of the physical constants of the universe, used as
an example of specified complexity by the ID folks?

http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/design.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "gordon brown" <gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu>
To: <dickfischer@verizon.net>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [asa] Apologetics Conference

> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 dickfischer@verizon.net wrote:
>
>> From: gordon brown <gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu>
>>
>> >>Just because some of these speakers are from the ID movement doesn't
>> >>mean that that is the whole subject of the conference. Many are
>> >>speaking about other topics, and some of the discussion of intelligent
>> >>design is about fine tuning, not intervention.
>>
>> Fine tuning? Take your car to a mechanic and ask him to "fine tune" it
>> without physically touching your car. You're just mincing words here.
>> God either intervenes in life processes (without leaving any evidence of
>> it) or He doesn't. If I'm faithful to the evidence, I'd conclude He does
>> not. Otherwise, why all the imperfections in our DNA? That doesn't mean
>> He couldn't, wouldn't or doesn't. But if He does, He does it
>> imperfectly. So if you would prefer a God who acts on nature with
>> occasional success, I'm not sure that is any better apologetic technique
>> than for one to believe that God takes no direct action in the process.
>>
>> Yes, there are other subjects at the conference.
>>
>> ~Dick
>
> I guess I was wrong in assuming that everyone would know what I meant by
> fine tuning. The arguments that I had in mind concern the fine tuning of
> the universe, i.e. the setting of its physical constants in the big bang,
> not some subsequent fixing of something. The talk on cosmological fine
> tuning is to be given by a physicist.
>
> Gordon Brown
> Department of Mathematics
> University of Colorado
> Boulder, CO 80309-0395
>
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