Re: [asa] Innate design detector?

So the paper you cited, like ID in your estimation, is basically useless?

On 11/1/06, Pim van Meurs <pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Exactly why ID is flawed...
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> On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:08 AM, David Opderbeck wrote:
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> *It helps us understand why some detect 'design' in biology even
> though there is a considerable risk of false positives*.
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> No it doesn't, because it gives us no criteria for sifting true positives
> from false positives.
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> On 11/1/06, Pim van Meurs <pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > It helps us understand why some detect 'design' in biology even
> > though there is a considerable risk of false positives. The question
> > of purpose in biology may always remain an open question as it is
> > presently based on our ignorance and unless we manage to learn more,
> > there will always be issues where we lack knowledge and are quick to
> > jump to design conclusions, as this is our innate tendency.
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> > Remember that Dembski argued that the presence of false positives in
> > inferring design would render his approach useless.
> > Nevertheless, this innate tendency may help explain such things as
> > superstition, alien landings, etc. Who does not remember watching the
> > clouds pass by and seeing 'designs'.
> > So if we are hard wired to detect design, especially when we lack
> > additional explanations, then I see this as a very relevant issue
> > even to our so called design as some claim has been detected in for
> > instance biology.
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> > On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:35 AM, David Opderbeck wrote:
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> > > The paper doesn't seem terribly interesting. We're hard-wired to
> > > infer purpose from certain perceptual patterns; sometimes our
> > > inferences are correct, sometimes they're not. Whether the
> > > perception of purpose in biology is a correct inference is an open
> > > question. So what?
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Received on Thu Nov 2 00:09:32 2006