RE: [asa] The Bible does not require a Neolithic Adam!

Hi Glenn, you wrote:

Dick wrote:

>The city Cain built and named Enoch is dateable. Noah is dateable via the

Mesopotamian flood and he is only ten generations

>removed. Noah's grandsons are dateable as are subsequent generations to

Abraham, and Abraham is dateable. What more

>do you want?

As is my habit of trying to address objections, I will go for it, but this

one I find rather silly, and based upon a silly approach to archaeological

linguistics. This is the basis of your claim.

"Naming the city 'Enoch" may seem like an unnecessary addendum, a bit of

Bible trivia, but it is not without significance. According to the

Sumerians, kingship resumed at Kish after the flood. Twenty-three kings

ruled there until 'Kish was smitten with weapons; its kingship to E-Anna(k)

was carried.' In The Makers of Civilization, Waddell translated E-Anna(k)

directly as 'Enoch,' reckoning it as the Sumerian equivalent for Enoch, the

city built by Cain." Dick Fischer, The Origins Solution, (Lima: Fairway

Press, 1996), p. 237

I call this the rhyming method of archaology; if it rhymes, it is a match.

This is probably why we look for the tower of Babel in Assyria. Babel, in

Hebrew means confusion; Babel in Assyrian means Gate of God. But hey, they

rhyme therefore the Tower of Babel must be in Assyria, right? The logic is

flawed.

Nobody looks for the Tower of Babel in Assyria, it was located in Hilla
(Babylon) in Southern Mesopotamia. The two leading candidates for towers
built on original locations replacing previous towers destroyed by the
Assyrians under Sennacherib are: Birs Nimrud and Babil. One of these likely
was built at the same spot.

Let me put it this way, suppose you introduced your wife to me and I said,
"Your name is "Morton" the same as Glenn's last name. There are lots of men
named "Morton," how do you know this one is your husband"? Do you suppose
she might have other ways of knowing who you are?

That's the same principle here. There are a number of historical tidbits
that line up. Taken all together they make a picture. A picture you won't
see if you refuse to see it like when you were a YEC surrounded by
age-of-the-earth evidence, yet you blocked it out until the sheer weight of
it overwhelmed you. By contrast, I will never have enough evidence to
convince you.

On the other hand, your scenario has positive evidence that negates it.
Your reckoning that one or more speciation events occurs in the procession
of mankind between Noah and Abraham will always be ridiculed. And rightly
so. Noah curses Canaan, the Canaanites built Ebla, and Ebla began about
3000 BC. Abraham leaves Mesopotamia and arrives in the land of Canaan. It
all fits in a recent timeframe and makes no sense at all in a protracted
millions-of-years between patriarchs idea. Indeed the entirety of Genesis
2-11 makes no historical sense divorced from its ANE roots.

In the next paragraph from the one I quoted, Dick acknowledges that the

original city was destroyed by the flood-- but then the name here is still

supposed to be significant somehow. I guess he has never heard of Aberdeen

Maryland, or Aberdeen South Dakota.

Which derive from Aberdeen, Scotland. That's my point. Names perpetuate,
giving us clues that the people or places existed in a previous location or
at a previous time. Adamu as a personal name among Semitic nations derives
from Adam. The en- prefix in Enoch means "lord" or "king." The Sumerian
equivalent for the city of Enoch is unug just as the Sumerian equivalent for
Erech is Uruk. How would the Sumerians know a city built 5 million years
ago by an Australopithecine?

There's more, but like your lovely spouse who likely wouldn't disclose many
of the reasons she knows you, I put it all in logical sequence in the new
book, Historical Genesis: from Adam to Abraham.

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

www.genesisproclaimed.org <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org/>

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Received on Mon Oct 30 12:29:11 2006