Re: [asa] YEC and ID arguments

And yet, Simon Conway Morris' ideas about convergent evolution in Life's
Solution are teleological arguments that seem to suggest the same kind of
engineer. How is seeing a purpose in convergent evolution all that much
different than seeing a purpose in the flagellum?

On 10/24/06, Austerberry, Charles <cfauster@creighton.edu> wrote:
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> In Simon Conway Morris' words:
>
> "In my opinion, ID is a false and misleading attraction. There would be
> little point in reiterating the many objections raised against ID,
> especially those made by the scientific colleagues, but opponents, of
> Michael Behe and Bill Dembski, its two principal proponents.
>
> Rather, ID has a more interesting failing, a theological failing. Consider
> a possible analogy, that of Gnosticism. Who knows where this claptrap come
> from, but it could have been an attempt to reconcile orphic and mithraic
> mysteries with a new, and, to many in the Ancient World, a very dangerous
> Christianity.
>
> So, too, in our culture, those given over to being worshippers of the
> machine and the computer model, those admirers of organised efficiency -
> they would not expect the Creator (that is, the one identified as the
> engineer of the bacterial flagellar motor, or whatever your favourite case
> study of ID might be) to be encumbered with the customary cliché of bearing
> a large white beard, but to be the very model of scientific efficiency, and
> so don a very large white coat. ID is surely the deist's option, and one
> that turns its back not only on the richness and beauty of creation, but, as
> importantly, on its limitless possibilities. It is a theology for control
> freaks.
>
> To question ID might generate a ripple of applause from neo-Darwinians,
> until they recall that theology is not a fad, a pastime for eccentrics, but
> central to our enterprise. Such an approach may not only be consistent with
> evolution, but can also resonate with orthodox Christian theology - the
> fall, the incarnation and the end times."
>
>
>
> http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/churchtimes/website/pages.nsf/httppublicpages/63693299A537AEDD80256FB2003650C7
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:51:02 -0400
> From: "David Opderbeck" <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [asa] YEC and ID arguments
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> *An argument for theism/design based on convergent evolution is simply a
> non
> sequiteur.*
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> So you didn't like Simon Conway Morriss' recent book?
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