Glen wrote:
When God said to Eve, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing"
Why would that be a curse, if she already has it?
Don writes:
While your entire post was well thought out and I certainly might agree with
much of it, you used the idea of a "smoking gun" and state that Dick should
dig deeper into the verses. Agreed. But what about the statement above.
You make it sound as if this is the first time anyone felt pain at
childbirth. It says "greatly increase" not "begin to have". This implies
that there was already pain at childbirth, but now it would be even greater.
This could be a neurological increase, or more likely, a spiritual increase
in pain. The memories of such a birth, painfully physical, and then to see
the very thing that you gave birth to (painfully) turn on you and become
evil and corrupt as mankind is currently, is painful (increasingly so)
spiritually and phsychologically. What I'm trying to say is that the verse
above refers to our spiritual, mental, and psychological pain and memories
of the birth and the disappointment many parents feel when there children do
not turn out as hoped. Know anyone with a child with whom they're
disappointed? Certainly, if your translation is correct, it cannot be the
"smoking gun" for a Neolithic Adam. But, based on the idea that birthing
pains would "increase", not "begin", does not necessarily place him further
back either.
Don Perrett
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