Re: Re: [asa] James Kennedy and the YEC line

I simply cannot accept this kind of thing.

There is an excellent review of Broom's How blind is the Watchmaker in
Themelios in April 2006, in which he charges Broom of misrepresenting
Dawkins. It is a long and passionate review, but a model on how we should
deal with those with whom we disagree.

First rule, expound their position accurately.

BTW the reviewer is far more sceptical of evolution than I am, but because
of his utter integrity I am very relaxed about that!

I also criticised PZMyers on Pharangula and Panda's Thumb - and got called a
hypocrite!

I insist that honesty and integrity in these discussions is absolutely
paramount.

I also have difficulty in seeing how James Kennedy can actually proclaim the
Gospel

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Blinne" <rich.blinne@gmail.com>
To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Cc: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [asa] James Kennedy and the YEC line

> On 8/23/06, Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>> I confess to have a working principle, which is based on 35 years of
>> experience. That is that YECs, IDs , and right wingers always get their
>> facts wrong, hence when James or Janice say anything I assume it's wrong!
>> If I then bother to check it out, then I find my assumption is correct.
>>
>> Cynically
>>
>> Michael
>
> It is debatable about the historical point but there is someone more
> contemporary that got slandered in the process and that is Dr. Francis
> Collins. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and avoid
> calling people liars but in this case it seems to be more than merely
> getting facts wrong. Here's the original blurb for the special:
>
> http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:oc06Fy8z3LwJ:www.coralridge.org/darwin/+Coral+Ridge+Hitler+Francis-Collins+site:coralridge.org
>
> "This 60 minute special featuring Richard Weikart, author of From
> Darwin to Hitler, Lee Strobel, author of The Case for a Creator;
> Jonathan Wells, author of Icons of Evolution; Phillip Johnson, author
> of Darwin on Trial; Michael Behe, author of Darwin's Black Box; Ian
> Taylor, author of In the Minds of Men, and Francis Collins, Director
> of the Human Genome Project will show why evolution is a bad idea that
> should be discarded into the dustbin of history."
>
> Now it is this:
>
> "This 60 minute special featuring Richard Weikart, author of From
> Darwin to Hitler, Lee Strobel, author of The Case for a Creator;
> Jonathan Wells, author of Icons of Evolution; Phillip Johnson, author
> of Darwin on Trial; Michael Behe, author of Darwin's Black Box, and
> Ian Taylor, author of In the Minds of Men will show why evolution is a
> bad idea that should be discarded into the dustbin of history."
>
> It seems that Dr. Collins was interviewed by Coral Ridge to promote
> his new book concerning finding common ground between Christianity and
> science. It was spliced in to support this without Dr. Collins
> knowledge or permission. Dr. Collins is a theistic evolutionist and
> has been critical of both YEC and ID. He does hold, however, to both
> the moral and cosmological (fine tuning) arguments for the existence
> of God. Thus, it was startling to see Dr. Collins as an expert for
> this special.
>
> Noted atheist, Dr. PZ Meyers, picked up on this and started being
> critical of Dr. Collins for being a hypocrite. Dr. Collins was
> contacted by a commenter on the Pharyngula blog via e-mail. Dr.
> Collins then started distancing himself from the show. When the ADL
> got in touch with Dr. Collins (
> http://www.adl.org/PresRele/HolNa_52/4877_52.htm ) he said:
>
> "After being contacted by the ADL about his name being used to promote
> Kennedy's project, Dr. Collins said he is 'absolutely appalled by what
> Coral Ridge Ministries is doing. I had NO knowledge that Coral Ridge
> Ministries was planning a TV special on Darwin and Hitler, and I find
> the thesis of Dr. Kennedy's program utterly misguided and
> inflammatory,' he told ADL."
>
> Coral Ridge's response to ADL (
> http://www.coralridge.org/specialdocs/PR_ADL_Darwin.htm) nowhere
> mentioned their abuse of Dr. Collins' good name. They just silently
> removed his name from their web site. Of course, press releases such
> as this http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/22995779.html still have
> the original promotion.
>
> I have used Dr. Kennedy's materials for apologetics for a long time
> now. It now appears that I will need to do apologies in the common
> rather than technical sense. This is SO embarrassing and sets back
> evangelizing scientists considerably.
>

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