Re: [asa] Vatican Astronomer Replaced

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:04:43 -0500, Pim van Meurs <pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Aha heretical beliefs. Sounds like you oppose intelligent design as well
> as Ann Coulter as well then? Or are heretical beliefs just in the eye of
> the beholder.
> Perhaps Janice can point us to some examples of Coyne's position?

Perhaps you didn't read the quotation pulled from Coyne's
own conference notes, which are available at:

http://www.aei.org/docLib/20051027_HandoutCoyne.pdf

The quotation from Janice's earlier posting (below your
remarks, but perhaps you missed them in your haste to
post your comments) is:

"If we take the results of modern science seriously, it is difficult to
believe that God is omnipotent and omniscient in the sense of the
scholastic philosophers. Science tells us of a god who must be very
different from God as seen by the medieval philosophers and theologians.
Let us ask the hard question. Could, for instance, God after a billion
years in a fourteen billion year old universe have predicted that human
life would come to be? Let us suppose that God possessed the theory of
everything, knew all the laws of physics, all the fundamental forces. Even
then could God know with certainty that human life would come to be? If we
truly accept the scientific view that, in addition to necessary processes
and the immense opportunities offered by the universe, there are also
chance processes, then it would appear that not even God could know the
outcome with certainty. God cannot know what is not knowable."

By every standard I'm aware of, those remarks are heretical. They
have made a man out of God, a limited being that is incapable of
understanding his own creation... and presume limitations on Him that
are contrary to the Bible's teaching.

Sorry, Pim, but Janice is right here to point out the heresy involved
in Coyne's remarks. I know you see eye to eye with Janice on just
about nothing, but at least you should be able to admit that his
ideas run contrary to the teaching (at least) of the Roman Catholic
church. We won't get into how far astray his ideas have fallen from
Biblical truth.

Todd
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Todd K. Pedlar
Assistant Professor of Physics, Luther College
pedlto01@luther.edu
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"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and
won't change the subject." -- Winston Churchill

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Received on Tue Aug 22 13:29:26 2006