Re: OOL: was [asa] Quoting Evolution [was Darwin] out of context

In a message dated 8/22/2006 10:06:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
gregoryarago@yahoo.ca writes:
Then again, it is agreed, this topic runs as a tangent to the main issue of
quoting evolution out of context. This over-stretching of evolution (e.g.
'evolution run mad') was the issue I'd hoped Rich would acknowledge.

Gregory

Dawkins is a secular humanist. i have an issue of the secular humanist at
home somewhere and Dawkins appears in the mag so he is politically motivated.
Ignore him. I went myself to see the controversy in academia. Dawkins was there
and was not involved. The big names like Pinker) are staying away from the
controversy to avoid any repercussions. My conclusions are at the following link:

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/HBES2000.htm

p.s. origin(s) of human consciousness (what it appears is what Rich really
wants to talk/think about) cannot be reduced to a purely natural scientific
question without significant consequences for theology, among other fields - 'the
beginning' is a rather strange way to phrase emergence of consciousness, and
Joseph Campbell, William James, along with some others that Rich quotes are not
who I prefer to entertain in a Christian approach to science, philosophy and
theology.
Of course, not without significant consequences, but the consequences are far
worse if the fall and indeed all of genesis are not properly understood -
"the beginning" in my essay is in quotes, as in the "so-called beginning," so
don't make so much of it. I qualified it in quotes to clearly show how I was
using it, so qualify it as I have. the fall in genesis is the transition from
instinctive to learned behavior which only humans have fully made, hence the
beginning of humanity, not the OOL, is what is described accurately in genesis.

I quoted all those people because the process they describe is the same
regardless of who they are or what they believe. They are describing the same
process which is the biological universal I discuss in True Religion, which is the
emergence of learned behavior described in genesis. The religious experience,
wherever it is found, is the same because it is based on a biological
universal.

who you prefer to entertain is irrelevant. I would ignore me if I were you
people just as many of you do anyway, but you should not ignore the arguments
and very few of you are willing to address the arguments perhaps because they
are alien, or perhaps due to the "consequences." But all these people describe
the same thing, the abandonment of the self.

So does HE.

“This is why the Father loves me, because I lay down my life in order to take
it up again. No one takes it from me but I lay it down on my own. I have
power to lay it down and power to take it up again. This command I have received
from my Father.” 39

rich faussette

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Received on Tue Aug 22 12:45:56 2006