Re: [asa] Creation and Incarnation

From: Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca>
Date: Sat Aug 19 2006 - 03:25:56 EDT

If it is helping to clear up the ambiguity in our language (expression), then I consider the discussion a success.
   
  If 'natural' in your sentence means 'obeying physical laws,' then aren't the two concepts of 'naturalism' and 'physicalism' potentially overlapping or even synonymous? I am still wondering if printing is not more accurately described as an 'artificial' method of disseminating information. It likewise might also be proper to say that all technologies, radio, television, internet, printing, etc. are not natural, but rather artificial methods. Or is technology somehow 'natural'?
   
  I agree with you entirely that "It's perfectly reasonable to make use of the former [printing articles] while also hoping for the latter to occur, e.g. in praying for it." In fact, that combination is likely the best thing for our e-comminucation method here as well.
   
  Arago

David Campbell <pleuronaia@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/18/06, Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca> wrote: David Campbell wrote:
  "the fact that one can combine printing articles in the ordinary fashion with prayer and God's work shows that use of natural methods is not inherently atheistic. / Attacking MN is a red herring."
 

    Please excuse if I didn't quite understand your message. I think I agree. But I'm not sure what you mean by 'natural methods.' Is printing considered to be a 'natural method' or is prayer a natural method? It seems that some people define printing presses as 'artificial' and prayer as 'natural' (or characteristic) only to believers and whatever they are praying to.
   

   
  You caught another ambiguity. Natural in that sentence means "obeying physical laws", so printing is a natural method of disseminating information, in contrast to assumptions involving divine revelation. It's perfectly reasonable to make use of the former while also hoping for the latter to occur, e.g. in praying for it.

                 
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