I forgot to reply to this before -- but these examples both seem
excellent. And just for extra clarity and "point-driving punch" can
any of you who may be Hebrew scholars confirm whether or not the word
for "day" used in "in the day of thine eating of it" is the same Hebrew
word used previously in the Genesis 1 account?
and Iain, I have been noting in my Bible readings where a spiritual
context is recognized and used for a (or in place of a) physical
event. Most recently I was reading 2 Corinthians chapter 3. In
verse fourteen, the veil which was over Moses face is referred to as
still existing for some today causing them to "be dull" because it still
covers their hearts, and only Christ can remove it. Now Vernon would
point out to us that this isn't a denial of the actual reality of the
historical event. I.e. Paul surely wasn't making any commentary to
suggest that it didn't happen in a physical sense with Moses. But he
was taking a presumably physically manifested event from scriptural
history and recognizing the spiritual (and not seen in the same literal
way) aspect of that same event in the present. This seems to me a
precedent for how "death" which is spoken of in a literal sense in
Genesis can be recognized in its spiritual dimension. But all that
aside, Iain, none of this captures the situation in such crystal clear
view (at least to the already converted choir) as your example with
Nicodemus. Thanks for that -- or for passing it along.
--merv
Iain Strachan wrote:
>
>
> On 7/29/06, *D. F. Siemens, Jr.* <dfsiemensjr@juno.com
> <mailto:dfsiemensjr@juno.com>> wrote:
>
> Iain,
> I'm glad that you caught on. However, I'm wondering why it took a
> roundabout route through Nicodemus. I'm citing Young, for he is
> the most "literal" of translators: "for in the day of thine eating
> of it--dying thou shalt die" (Genesis 2:17b). "THE DAY" And the
> old boy lived for over nine centuries after eating.
>
>
> Yes, this idea is also clear to me now.
>
> Why did the Lord choose to show me via this roundabout route? Maybe I
> was shown this way to remind me of what it means to be saved, and to
> be born again - so I gained a new and greater insight about what it
> means to be a Christian, rather than a just a better understanding of
> one verse in Genesis. I think modern business jargon would refer to
> this as "added value". The clear meaning of the Genesis verse came
> later; but what I received that evening made me really think about
> what John 3:16 really meant, and gave it a whole new "wow factor" (to
> use another business jargon phrase!)
>
> Iain
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