Re: [asa] Opposing Anti-Evolution

On the contrary, your insistence on forcing everything into your procrustean bed of "Darwinian" interpretation is what is narrowing.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
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  In a message dated 7/14/2006 1:55:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, gmurphy@raex.com writes:
    Apparently I didn't make the distinction clear, though I thought I did when I said "it is not that God calls the wise but that God makes wise those who are called. " I.e., wisdom is indeed important but it is a consequence of election rather than its cause. & that is (among other things) what Luther means.

    I suspect that one of the things (though not the only thing) underlying our difference here is that between RC & Lutheran understandings of justification - a difference which, however, the recent Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification goes a significant part of the way toward bridging.

    Shalom
    George
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

  No, my understanding of the fall and the allegories in Genesis come from a Darwinian reading and now more recently from Biblical archeology and ANE historians, not from either RC or Protestant sectarian concerns which are miniscule in comparison to the new perspective of the hebrew bible coming out of those disciplines.

  The environment in which you choose to squabble is too severely circumscribed to entertain the recent discoveries in any of these areas and so you reply to me from what is familiar, thinking you are making the appropriate response to my remarks.

  I contend that the return from the fall is the pursuit of wisdom: the knowledge of the laws of god so you can do the will of God.
  I provided quotes from each of the synoptics lauding Jesus' wisdom to illustrate that fact.

  In return I got 2 quotes from Paul's letter to the Corinthians as proof that God does not favor the learned because Paul is criticizing those who are wise but not good. I provided the context of Paul's evangelizing against the backdrop of the development of rabbinical Judaism from pharisaism that rose with Jesus' antagonism toward the learned pharisees not because they were wise but as is commonly known because they were hypocritical and it was casually ignored.

  rich faussette

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