Re: [asa] Coulter, and science

I give up.

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [asa] Coulter, and science

> Geology as historical science deals with the time development of the
> history of earth. As an experimental science, geology uses physics and
> chemistry to analyze the constitution of rocks, oil, etc. There is no
> science without the data obtained with the methods of experimental
> science. Besides the experimental aspect of science, there is
> observational sciences, say, in astronomy and cosmology, where
> experiments cannot be done with the system being dealt with. However,
> the analysis of the observations is always based on results from the
> experimental sciences.
>
> =20
>
> Moorad
>
> =20
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Roberts [mailto:michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk]=20
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 9:58 AM
> To: Iain Strachan
> Cc: Alexanian, Moorad; Pim van Meurs; asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] Coulter, and science
>
> =20
>
> Yes, I was harsh. Over the years Moorad has refused to consider the
> principles of historical science and in a subsequent post wrote
> "Historical science =3D history + (results of) experimental science. " =
> He
> is plain wrong there. To follow the logic of his false view of science,
> we would not have been able to find much oil or other minerals, nor
> could we say anything about e.g. global warming.
>
> =20
>
> Bill was right to mention Young's book (now being revised) as this
> explains historical methods in science.
>
> =20
>
> All need to remember that science isn't only experimental, it is also
> historical, descriptive/comparative and theoretical, though at times one
> cannot make strict demarcations. All this is complicated by the
> "creationist" categorisation of operational and origins science, which
> again is nonsense and a way of denigrating historical science which, of
> course, leads to the ultimate blasphemy of an ancient earth and worse
> still evilution!
>
> =20
>
> Michael
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