Re: [asa] Coulter, and science

I get rather frustrated by those who don't seem to be able to accept the
validity of historical science and pit it against experimental science.
Those who argue this simply don't know what they are talking about and
should learn a little bit about science before they sound off.
I am sorry to say this Moorad but you have rabbited on about historical
science far too often. You need to learn a little geology.

Michael
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From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
To: "Pim van Meurs" <pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: [asa] Coulter, and science

> The controversial issues labeled as "science" in Coulter's book dwell with
> "applications" of scientific findings, which are based on particular moral
> views. The findings of experimental science are never is disagreement with
> the Christian faith. It is some aspects of historical science and uses of
> scientific findings that are "attacked" by Coulter. I have ordered her
> book for our library and look forward to reading it but have seen her
> often on TV.
>
>
> Moorad
>
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> From: Pim van Meurs [mailto:pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 3:48 PM
> To: Alexanian, Moorad
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] Coulter, and science
>
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>
> If her 'insights' into liberals matches her 'insights' into science,
> then things would be even more worrisome but that is not really the
> issue here. In this case, her understanding of science is not limited to
> 'some claims' but permeates her book.
> That should be of significant worry to anyone interested in good science
> education. Ann Coulter seems to be doing much harm to science, religion
> and even her main cause 'conservatism'.
>
> On talkereason James Downard continues his exploration of Ann Coulter's
> 'confusions' when it comes to scientific fields. What surprises me is
> how many (out of context) quotes Coulter seems to be using, many of
> which have been discussed on the various groups.
> For instance she quotes Raup, as Downard observes
>
> <quote>As those familiar with the apologetics of creationism will
> already know, Coulter's authority quoting of Raup falls well within
> standard operating procedures for antievolutionists who prefer lifting
> opinions from people rather than evaluating data. Examples for just the
> Raup case run from Young Earth creationist Duane Gish (1993, 77-79;
> 1995, 350-351) to ID patron saint Phillip Johnson (1991, 170-171) and
> Old Earth "progressive creationist" Robert C. Newman, "Conclusion," in
> Moreland & Reynolds (1999, 154).</quote>
>
> http://www.talkreason.org/articles/coulter2.cfm
>
> As Wikipedia points out
>
> <quote>Admittedly having no background on the science of the subject
> herself, Coulter says she turned to tutors in writing this section of
> the book: "I couldn't have written about evolution without the generous
> tutoring of Michael Behe <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behe>,
> David Berlinski <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berlinski>, and
> William Dembski <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dembski>..." Behe,
> Dembski and Berlinski are all fellows of the Discovery Institute
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute>, the hub of the
> intelligent design <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design>
> movement, which Coulter endorses in the book.</quote>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godless:_The_Church_of_Liberalism
>
> Seems even more worrisome that her comments were based on tutoring by
> well known ID activists.
>
> Personally, I could care less about Coulter's political leanings, what
> IS my concern is the level of science expoused in her book and the
> damage she may inflict on (conservative) Christians who take her
> comments seriously.
>
> Alexanian, Moorad wrote:
>
>>I have not read her book and I do believe that there may be some disputed
>>claims being made on the issue of evolution. However, I am sure those who
>>are attacking her are using her scientific views as a venue to attack the
>>real target, her political views and insights into liberals.
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Received on Mon Jul 10 06:51:02 2006