RE: [asa] RE: In defense of Paul Seely (Part 1)

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>
Date: Thu Jun 15 2006 - 11:07:49 EDT

Hi Glenn, you inscribed:
 
>>> My timeframe stops at 7,000 years ago when humans finally settled
the Tigris/Euphrates alluvial plain. <<<
 
GRM:Yep, a young-earth creationist ;-)
 
You know my methodology better than that.
 
GRM: Dick, given the topographic relief in an east-west direction, all
they had to do was see an area 10 feet higher than the water level and
that would easily be possible.
 
All I can tell you is that Ubaidans lived in that area along the
Euphrates prior to the flood and there is no trace of them after.
 
 GRM: Let me say that I had previously pointed out on this list that
many anthropologists think man is a single evolving species from many
millions of years ago to the present. But because it doesn't fit your
theory you forget this data. Secondly you say who cares then you talke
about mammalian bipeds. That is inconsistent. The reality is that too
many apologists decide first what the answer is and then twist the facts
to fit their theory.
 
I have no theory of biological man that deviates from current
anthropological theories, unlike you who has a theory of modern man
prior to 5 million years ago which is bereft of any supporting evidence
or has any support from anybody. It's not the evidence of two footed
ape/men you need. It's the evidence of artifacts other than stone
tools. And I don't think you can find any of those either. Find
evidence of bronze and iron within your timeframe. Even at 5,000 years
ago, bronze is disputed. Copper yes, but bronze is dicey in Mesopotamia
at that early date. And I don't even want to talk about iron.
 
When one sees this kind of gap between the first fossil and the second
oldest fossil of various groups, and one knows that the animal was on
earth during the 10 million time frame in which no fossil evidence
exists, you know that gaps are not the problem novices at geology think
they are.
 
Your gaps argument is lost on me. I see a gap of over 5 million years
between where anthropologists place the beginning of domesticated
animals and where you want them to be. I fail to see where you can get
bent all out of shape about an "absence of flood deposits" and have no
problem at all with the impossibility of bronze and iron artifacts
within your timeframe.
 
Dick Fischer
Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org> www.genesisproclaimed.org

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