Date: Fri Jun 09 2006 - 21:24:33 EDT
In a message dated 6/9/2006 12:46:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com writes:
RFaussette@aol.com wrote:
If you read Finkelstein, you realize the survival of the biblical Jews is a
result of the adoption of the Levitical prohibitions, not their abandonment,
but because the national identity of European American Christians has been
demonized, you cannot see that our numbers are dropping and open borders would
disperse us among foreign peoples, which is a biblical curse (Moses' words).
Don't waste your time justifying and arguing for marriage. Marriage
strengthens human families.
Know who would profane marriage and why and stop them.
So marriage is a construct of those in power to ensure their position of
power? I agree that marriage or any formal relationship strenghtens human
families.
I don't see the conclusion you draw in the first sentence could be gleaned
from anything I wrote. I see you agree that marriage strengthens human families
but you add "any formal relationship" presumably a reference to homosexual
same sex marriage. Here is the situation. Homosexuality can be attractive to
young men, not because they are born with a gay gene and can't help themselves but
because of their male sexual drive. Homosexuality, if legitimized, is easily
introduced to young men who engage opportunistically. They can be subborned
and trained to the behavior if they're caught at the right time. In an
environment in which homosexual behavior is completely legitimized, there will be more
opportunistic homosexuality than ever.
Married men with wives and children have a responsibility to nurture those
children and increase their opportunities. Men with only their sexual drive to
attend to do not nurture any children. They do not bear the greater burden of
fatherhood personally or economically. For that reason marriage between a man
and a woman must be sacralized because it is the most biologically healthy,
natural and productive relationship and marriage between a man and a woman bears
the responsibility, personally (as role models) and economically for
maintaining the family from generation to generation.
And it has been sacralized even more so than in Judaism by Jesus who was
against divorce.
Slavery is a formal relationship. It doesn't strengthen families.
In the Netherlands we have extended the concept of marriage to include any
two people who are willing to share their lives in a loving and caring
relationship and provided the choice of marriage or partnerships with all rights and
responsibilities to all.
Institutionalized marriage is not without its flaws, and has let to much
grief as well.
All of the liberal (homosexuality, abortion, feminism, birth control)
initiatives remove the protection of the Levitical prohibitions lowering the birth
rates and the economic viability of the group that practices them.
In other words, it reduces the political and economical powers of such
groups. And it also provides human beings with the choice and power to participate
as equals amongst peers rather than as subordinates.
The Netherlands? Your liberal policies are a failure. Multiculturalism has
failed you. How can you critique my defense of marriage? How can you suggest
that liberalism is tolerant? Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. Is it an
advantage that women are free to CHOOSE ( there's that woman's right to choose
again, always the right to make the worst choice) to be prostitutes and
"freely" subordinate themselves to men who pay them for sex and their
owner/managers/pimps? Is it a good thing that drugs are freely available? Is it a good
thing that conservative people like me are labeled far right and have their
throats cut in the Netherlands?
You are pontificating and your arguments are in defense of anti-Christian
behavior. It is a religion. It is supposed to foster the finest behaviors of
which men are capable. Are the behaviors liberals champion truly the finest
behaviors of which men are capable? I thought the finest behaviors were found in
conservative religion.
You say institutionalized marriage is not without its flaws? It's fine. It's
people who don't live up to the marital ideal that cause grief, not marriage.
Liberal (a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or
authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals
for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and
behavior of others; broad-minded.) with its roots in latin (Middle English,
generous, from Old French, from Latin lberlis, from lber, free.)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liberal
rich faussette
