Re: In defense of Paul Seely

From: Janice Matchett <janmatch@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed Jun 07 2006 - 16:28:39 EDT

At 02:42 PM 6/7/2006, Ted Davis wrote:
>I will respond to only a few things here, and plan no further comments on
>this thread. If Mr Holding wants to respond, I'll let him have the last
>word.
>
>I have snipped everything that I am not responding to. [snip]

@ You copied Mr Holding on your response, and since he's not
subscribed to this list, he just sent me a copy of his response to
what you wrote, so I'm posting it for him:

From: "James Patrick Holding" <jphold@earthlink.net>
To: "Janice Matchett" <janmatch@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: In defense of Paul Seely
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:54:59 -0400

>I can live with a YEC or an OEC but default to YEC for my referrals
>when people ask me questions. <BIG SNIP>
>
>Ted: This is consistent with all of my points--indeed, it strongly confirms
>the overall point that he sounds an awful lot like a YEC, whether or not he
>holds that view. My instincts were in this case an accurate guide.

No, his instincts were in error. He's just expanding the category to
accommodate his error in presumption.

>Ted: So neither of us is a biblical scholar, and both of us need to rely on
>those who are. The ones I know best, including my pastor (who has a
>doctorate in Old Testament and teaches a course on Genesis here at Messiah)
>and those who teach Hebrew Bible at Messiah, are convinced that there are in
>fact two creation stories in Genesis.

And that's a wonderfully detailed response to my article, which
includes an answer to the use of YHWH/Elohim, so I say again that if
he wants to play the game with me, he knows where he can find me. Or
he can send his pastor or whoever else he wants. I've gone through
the arguments and I'm not impressed by his laundry list of sound bites.

>Ted: The sentence Mr Holding responds to here is obviously about the
>earth's age, not at all about evolution.

Doesn't matter to me. If he can't answer my question, fine.

>I am concerned that he might have a crisis of faith if he were to look more
>closely at the scientific evidence relevant to the age of the earth and
>universe.

Then he's wrong. And as long as people can't answer my questions,
there will never be a problem even starting.

[End of Mr. Holding's comments]

~ Janice
Received on Wed Jun 7 16:28:42 2006

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