Re: 666 Day

From: <drsyme@cablespeed.com>
Date: Tue Jun 06 2006 - 09:26:25 EDT

A quote from Irenaus has been given as evidence of the
date of Revelation: "The external evidence centers around
Irenaeus (130-202). He was commenting on the number 666
when he wrote: "We will not, however, incur the risk of
pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for
if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly
revealed in this present time, it would have been
announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For
that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our
day, towards the end of Domitian's reign.""

This would place what "was seen" at 96AD. But this
evidence is ambiguous, and there are book length arguments
using internal evidence that Revelation was written prior
to 70AD, see Gentry:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0915815435/104-5865972-3955926?v=glance&n=283155
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 05:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
  Bill Hamilton <williamehamiltonjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My understanding is that someone (was it Origen) wrote
>that Revelation
> "appeared" ~95 AD. I'm curious how preterists deal with
>that. I knoe David
> Chilton makes much of the word "appeared", but are there
>other explanations? I
> have thought for some time that Revelation could have
>been written after 70 AD
> and rather than prophecy of coming events (wrt to
>destruction of the Temple) it
> is an interpretation of the event, much like Peter's
>"This is that which Joel
> prophesied..." in Acts.
>
> I am pretty much persuaded by the preterist view.
>
> --- jack syme <drsyme@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, what an admission this is!
>>
>> As a preterist, I am not even convinced that 666 refers
>>to Nero (although it
>> is an interesting theory and I have no other better
>>suggestion.)
>>
>> But to even admit this is a possibility means that you
>>guys believe that
>> Revelation was written prior to 70AD (prior to 68 AD
>>even since that is the
>> date of Nero's death,) and that John (if not other NT
>>authors) anticipated
>> that the Last Days was going to be a first century
>>event.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: George Murphy
>> To: Dick Fischer ; ASA
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: 666 Day
>>
>>
>> Nero is the most likely suspect but in any case the
>>text says "it is the
>> number of a human" (arithmos gar anthropon estin) so
>>anyone who tries to
>> connect it with the number of a month hasn't even read
>>the text with any
>> care. & in the 1st century June wouldn't have even been
>>the 6th month!
>>
>> Shalom
>> George
>> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dick Fischer
>> To: ASA
>> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:38 PM
>> Subject: 666 Day
>>
>>
>> At last a day we can celebrate(?) on the same day on
>>both sides of the
>> Atlantic Pond. Before anyone crawls under the bed to
>>escape the antichrist
>> this is just a brief reminder that those numbers likely
>>referred to Nero.
>> Okay, say a prayer or two just in case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dick Fischer
>>
>> Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association
>>
>> Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
>>
>> www.genesisproclaimed.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Bill Hamilton
> William E. Hamilton, Jr., Ph.D.
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Received on Tue Jun 6 09:26:48 2006

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