ERROR Re: NO! - sort of!

Sorry! Below, "they do not accept the idea of original guilt ..." .

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
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  From: George Murphy
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  Karl -

  Thanks for the plug. The teachings of Celestius, Pelagius' colleague, were condemnded at the 3d Ecumenical Council, but the canon doesn't go into a lot of detail. EO teaching is that all people inherit Adam's corruptibility & mortality but they do do accept the idea of "original guilt" - i.e., that all Adam's descendants inherit the guilt of his sin. They also don't accept the idea that the unregenerate will is bound so that it is unable to cooperate with God. It is probably fair to describe their view with that catch-all phrase "semi-Pelagian," though of course some would debate the pejorative connotations that the term usually has.

  Theosis does imply human-divine concurrence: EOs use the term "synergy" (just Greek for "cooperation") - which is of course anathema to traditional Lutherans & Calvinists. But whether one understands it to be part of justification or sanctification is important.

  Shalom
  George
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    From: cmekve@aol.com
    To: burgytwo@juno.com
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    Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:41 PM
    Subject: Re: NO! - sort of!

     The essay that Burgy mentions is from Lutheran Partners magazine, a publication for ordained and lay leaders in the ELCA. That essay as well as a number of other ones that George wrote for his "Handiwork" column are available online at http://www.elca.org/lutheranpartners/handiwork/past/index.html

    BTW, if you haven't read George's article in the latest PSCF, it's well worth it. What I've wondered, George, is how does the Orthodox position deal with questions of pelagianism? Or did it simply never arise as an issue in the East? I suspect some of my problem is a lack of precise understanding of terminology. Does theosis imply divine concurrence between humans and God?

    Karl
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