RE: A profound disturbance found in Yak butter.

For Debbie Mann and Burgy:

Hi Debbie,



On Tue May 30 11:48 , "Debbie Mann" sent:

I claim, that there is a reason for each Biblical account on the tough list.
I just spent a while on Genesis 1. First, the fact that the sun and the moon
were not created on the first day indicates that God's days and nights are
not our days and nights. With the evolution of the computer and computer
aided design - the idea of God speaking something into existence takes on
new meaning. We could be a computer game for all we know.

Given that the days and nights are not our days and nights - God's ways are
not our ways - the rest of the sequence is pretty logical. Except for the
sun and moon thing. But, even ancient man knew that the sun was life. Other
ancient men worshipped the sun. They knew that plants couldn't live without
the light of the sun. They knew that the sun gave the light of day and that
the sun's departure caused night. They may have thought the sun was a fiery
chariot or that it travelled across the sky in some other way - but they
knew it was day, and it was life.

So, why pull the sun and moon out of creation sequence?


In the beginning God.
Without God the earth was without form and void.
God said, 'Let there be light, and there was light.'

John 1
The Word Became Flesh
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has
been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light
shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

I believe the sun and moon are intentionally out of sequence, defying even
the logic of ancient man, in order to emphasize that God is the light of
men. God is life. God is day.

And, I believe that if you pray and look at other illogical situations in
the Bible, that you will find similar literary motives for them being thus.<<<<

Debbie,

There are 2 things wrong with this approach. First, it means that God didn't
foresee that we moderns would question the order of Genesis events. Does
that mean God couldn't foresee?  Secondly, you are assuming you know the
motivation for pulling the moon and sun out of sequence.  You may be right
or you may be wrong, but you have to realize that just because you assume
something doesn't make it so.  There is no place in the bible where God's
(or man's) motivation for doing things is discussed.

 

>>>
Consider modern art, modern literature. We suppose that ancient writers
could not, would not, use our 'sophisticated' methods of making points.
Let's step back and look at it differently. Take away your presuppositions
on a piece.

I am reading this for the first time. But, I have read the New Testament.
What strikes me? What seems powerful? What seems out of place? Why would an
author have done this? Ignorance? As I said, in this case, I say, 'No!' This
is too basic for ignorance. Then why would this be written thus?

This is literature - written for a purpose. All we know is that it is
literature, powerful enough to have survived millenium. Read it as such.
Where is its power?<<<

I guess I don't understand your point on this.

 

BURGY:

I have Larry Witham's book "Design". It is a history of the design movement. I tried
reading it, but it is so boring that I stopped. It is now in a box headed for the
port of Tianjin port on its way to Houston where it will still remain unread.