Re: RATE Vol. II

I agree with George and Dick (in principle, not necessisarily endorsing his statement as written). There seems to me to be no good reason not to say in some appropriate way, context or forum, that the ASA acknowledges that the scientific evidence for an ancient universe and earth is compelling and not in contradiction to the witness of Scripture and the ancient creeds.

Bob Schneider
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dick Fischer
  To: 'Randy Isaac' ; asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:19 AM
  Subject: RE: RATE Vol. II

  Let me second George's comment and throw this out for discussion and revision:

  "The ASA attests and affirms that certain matters within the realm of science can be established beyond reasonable doubt. One of these is the age of the earth which can be calculated presently to beyond 4 billion years. A preponderance of data and evidence has been established from many areas of science that substantiate earth age. As to the manner of creation, the appearance of life, and the mechanics of life processes, these can be items of continual discussion and lively debate within the organization until such time as these too may become settled."

  Dick Fischer

  Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

  Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

  www.genesisproclaimed.org

  IMO we've reached a point with the age of the earth at which ASA's position

  of not taking an official stance on disputed matters no longer applies. There is no scientific dispute about the order of magnitude of the age of the earth. The ASA should take the stance - & take it forcefully - that the earth is billions of years old,

  and that supposedly scientific claims to the contrary are without merit. Of course

  this does not mean that a position would be taken on biological evolution.

  We might lose a few members if we did this. That would be unfortunate but

  the alternative is for the organization to do nothing effective about this cancer.

  Shalom

  George

  http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
Received on Sun May 21 11:53:27 2006