Re: The Eight of the Ark

From: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Fri Mar 24 2006 - 18:08:00 EST

Simply, What does the Bible say about people at that time?

Were all apart from Noah et al killed or did aborigines and American natives or those living in Britain survive?

Is Scripture clear on the subject?

And tell him I taught for WCSS in 2001

Michael
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jim Armstrong
  To: Michael Roberts
  Cc: asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: The Eight of the Ark

  Michael, frame me a question for Dr Walton and I'll ask him. I'm acquainted with him, a delightful happenstance! JimA

  Michael Roberts wrote:
    Two examples ;

    Bernard Ramm The Christian View of Science and Scripture 1955 p 163

    Derek kidner Tyndale Commentary on Genesis p94

    JHWalton does not mention anything - avoids the issue?

    For myself I have never had a problem here that it was local anthropologically.

    Michael
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: David Opderbeck
      To: asa@calvin.edu
      Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:26 PM
      Subject: The Eight of the Ark

      Following along on some of the recent "Arkeology" discussions, I recently corresponded with a reasonably well-known OT scholar from an Evangelical seminary who holds a "local" view of the flood. I asked him for some references where Evangelical OT scholars discuss the possibility that the flood was local anthropologically as well as geographically. I was surprised that he said he didn't know of any. Citing 2 Peter 2:5, he said the NT confirms that the only eight members of the human race survived the flood. This seems odd to me, since this person would say that 2 Peter 3:6 and its context don't require that the flood was geographically global. If that's so, I'm not sure why scholars applying the same literal-historical-grammatical hermeneutic to both passages should be dogmatic about 2 Peter 2:5, which could be read along with the more limited understanding of "cosmos" in 2 Peter 3:6 to mean that of the people affected by the flood, only eight were saved. Moreover, unless the Biblical flood was tens of thousands of years ago, the extra-Biblical evidence pretty clearly shows that it couldn't have wiped out every human being alive on the face of the earth (even if "human being" has a very limited meaning). I have to believe that many ASA members with Evangelical convictions, and probably many who teach at Evangelical institutions which adhere to some form of "inerrancy," think along these lines.

      So anyway: does anyone here know of papers, commentaries, etc. from an Evangelical perspective that discuss this particular question? Please note that I'm not looking right now for a debate on the meaning or merits of "inerrancy."
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