Re: No more political propaganda on ASA please !! (was Re: Fw: Get to know a ...)

I actually decide some time ago to filter out (as suggested by a couple
of folks) one particular poster's prolific and content/visually noisy
messages.
I liked the result and the filter is still in place.
No need to respond now, even if that response amounts only to undue wear
on my teeth.
I get a sense of the substance from those who do post responses -
generally only affirming the value of the filter.
JimA

Tjalle T Vandergraaf wrote:

> Iain
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> Thanks for posting this. As a Canadian ASA member, I had hoped that
> our interest in the interface between Faith and Science would
> transcend national boundaries. Reading disparaging comments about the
> mental capacity of US lawmakers makes me feel like the visitor who
> walked into a family squabble.
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> Chuck Vandergraaf
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> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]
> On Behalf Of Iain Strachan
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:07 AM
> To: George Murphy
> Cc: Carol or John Burgeson; asa@calvin.edu; Janice Matchett
> Subject: No more political propaganda on ASA please !! (was Re: Fw:
> Get to know a ...)
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> On 3/21/06, George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com <mailto:gmurphy@raex.com>>
> wrote:
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> A new low in childish language for this list. Janice, are you ever
> going to grow up?
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> Shalom
> George
> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/ <http://web.raex.com/%7Egmurphy/>
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> George,
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> I sympathise entirely.
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> I initially thought I wouldn't post this, as it's off the topic of
> Science/Faith discussion, but I think I will now just to let people
> know what they're dealing with.
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> Most of Janice's posts seem to be drawn from the freerepublic.com
> <http://freerepublic.com> website. As a UK citizen, I didn't know
> what this was (maybe it's well-known in America). But I decided to
> investigate with the help of Google. ( Apparently there's a new term
> "goo-diligence" been coined ;-).
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> It would appear that Janice is a political agitator for the Republican
> party, and I'd like to state here that I don't think that posting
> political propaganda is an appropriate use of a forum for the sober
> and scholarly discussion of science/faith issues.
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> I found the following statement from Jim Robinson, who is the founder
> of "Free Republic". It shows precisely where she is coming from. Any
> democrat supporters on this list will probably find the following
> deeply repugnant and offensive. I also want to point out that this
> has nothing to do with my own political affiliations - at the moment
> in the UK I vote for the Conservative party, though I have been a
> floating voter. Here is the statement from Jim Robinson:
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> This may be found at:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts
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> Statement by the founder of Free Republic:
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> In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution
> and against totalitarianism, socialism, tyranny, terrorism, etc., Free
> Republic stands firmly on the side of right, i.e., the conservative
> side. Believing that the best defense is a strong offense, we (myself
> and those whom I'm trying to attract to FR) support the strategy of
> taking the fight to the enemy as opposed to allowing the enemy the
> luxury of conducting their attacks on us at home on their terms and on
> their schedule.
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> Therefore, we wholeheartedly support the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive
> strikes on known terrorist states and organizations that are believed
> to present a clear threat to our freedom or national security. We
> support our military, our troops and our Commander-in-Chief and we
> oppose turning control of our government back over to the liberals and
> socialists who favor appeasement, weakness, and subserviency. We do
> not believe in surrendering to the terrorists as France, Germany,
> Russia and Spain have done and as Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton and the
> Democrats, et al, are proposing.
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> As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life,
> pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited
> government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes,
> pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We
> oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism,
> totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism,
> feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial
> activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world
> government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our
> sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our
> borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.
>
> Free Republic is private property. It is not a government project, nor
> is it funded by government or taxpayer money. We are not a publicly
> owned entity nor are we an IRS tax-free non-profit organization. We
> pay all applicable taxes on our income. We are not connected to or
> funded by any political party, news agency, or any other entity. We
> sell no merchandise, product or service, and we offer no subscriptions
> or paid memberships. We accept no paid advertising or promotions. We
> are funded solely by donations (non tax deductible gifts) from our
> readers and participants.
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> We aggressively defend our God-given and first amendment guaranteed
> rights to free speech, free press, free religion, and freedom of
> association, as well as our constitutional right to control the use
> and content of our own personal private property. Despite the wailing
> of the liberal trolls and other doom & gloom naysayers, we feel no
> compelling need to allow them a platform to promote their repugnant
> and obnoxious propaganda from our forum. Free Republic is not a
> liberal debating society. We are conservative activists dedicated to
> defending our rights, defending our constitution, defending our
> republic and defending our traditional American way of life.
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> Our God-given liberty and freedoms are not negotiable.
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> May God bless and protect our men and women in uniform fighting for
> our freedom and may God continue to bless America.
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> Jim Robinson
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> But to be fair to both sides, if an avid democrat posted propaganda
> for their viewpoint in the same manner that Janice has (quote bombing
> from a propaganda web site), then I would equally object. This is a
> forum for debate of Science/Faith issues, not for ramming unwelcome
> political views down peoples' throats.
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> Iain
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Janice Matchett <mailto:janmatch@earthlink.net>
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> To: Carol or John Burgeson <mailto:burgytwo@juno.com> ;
> asa@calvin.edu <mailto:asa@calvin.edu>
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: Fw: Get to know a ...
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> At 06:02 PM 3/19/2006, Carol or John Burgeson wrote:
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> "..Shoot -- I even have Republican friends! They, too, don't wear
> horns."
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> @ RINOS do have horns.
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> "Lincoln Chafee (R) is a genuine mental midget among mental
> retards in the United States Senate."
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> Per my post with much more detail, here:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600090/posts?page=25#25
> <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600090/posts?page=25#25>
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> ~ Janice
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> After the game, the King and the pawn go back in the same box.
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Received on Thu Mar 23 12:05:53 2006