As another foreigner I second Iain's comments but I would be as vociferous if the British looney left or right were peddling such drivel.
Also in fairness I know some others on this list are Republicans, who are very far from this right wing rant
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Iain Strachan
To: George Murphy
Cc: Carol or John Burgeson ; asa@calvin.edu ; Janice Matchett
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: No more political propaganda on ASA please !! (was Re: Fw: Get to know a ...)
On 3/21/06, George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com> wrote:
A new low in childish language for this list. Janice, are you ever going to grow up?
Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
George,
I sympathise entirely.
I initially thought I wouldn't post this, as it's off the topic of Science/Faith discussion, but I think I will now just to let people know what they're dealing with.
Most of Janice's posts seem to be drawn from the freerepublic.com website. As a UK citizen, I didn't know what this was (maybe it's well-known in America). But I decided to investigate with the help of Google. ( Apparently there's a new term "goo-diligence" been coined ;-).
It would appear that Janice is a political agitator for the Republican party, and I'd like to state here that I don't think that posting political propaganda is an appropriate use of a forum for the sober and scholarly discussion of science/faith issues.
I found the following statement from Jim Robinson, who is the founder of "Free Republic". It shows precisely where she is coming from. Any democrat supporters on this list will probably find the following deeply repugnant and offensive. I also want to point out that this has nothing to do with my own political affiliations - at the moment in the UK I vote for the Conservative party, though I have been a floating voter. Here is the statement from Jim Robinson:
This may be found at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts
Statement by the founder of Free Republic:
In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution and against totalitarianism, socialism, tyranny, terrorism, etc., Free Republic stands firmly on the side of right, i.e., the conservative side. Believing that the best defense is a strong offense, we (myself and those whom I'm trying to attract to FR) support the strategy of taking the fight to the enemy as opposed to allowing the enemy the luxury of conducting their attacks on us at home on their terms and on their schedule.
Therefore, we wholeheartedly support the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive strikes on known terrorist states and organizations that are believed to present a clear threat to our freedom or national security. We support our military, our troops and our Commander-in-Chief and we oppose turning control of our government back over to the liberals and socialists who favor appeasement, weakness, and subserviency. We do not believe in surrendering to the terrorists as France, Germany, Russia and Spain have done and as Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton and the Democrats, et al, are proposing.
As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.
Free Republic is private property. It is not a government project, nor is it funded by government or taxpayer money. We are not a publicly owned entity nor are we an IRS tax-free non-profit organization. We pay all applicable taxes on our income. We are not connected to or funded by any political party, news agency, or any other entity. We sell no merchandise, product or service, and we offer no subscriptions or paid memberships. We accept no paid advertising or promotions. We are funded solely by donations (non tax deductible gifts) from our readers and participants.
We aggressively defend our God-given and first amendment guaranteed rights to free speech, free press, free religion, and freedom of association, as well as our constitutional right to control the use and content of our own personal private property. Despite the wailing of the liberal trolls and other doom & gloom naysayers, we feel no compelling need to allow them a platform to promote their repugnant and obnoxious propaganda from our forum. Free Republic is not a liberal debating society. We are conservative activists dedicated to defending our rights, defending our constitution, defending our republic and defending our traditional American way of life.
Our God-given liberty and freedoms are not negotiable.
May God bless and protect our men and women in uniform fighting for our freedom and may God continue to bless America.
Jim Robinson
But to be fair to both sides, if an avid democrat posted propaganda for their viewpoint in the same manner that Janice has (quote bombing from a propaganda web site), then I would equally object. This is a forum for debate of Science/Faith issues, not for ramming unwelcome political views down peoples' throats.
Iain
----- Original Message -----
From: Janice Matchett
To: Carol or John Burgeson ; asa@calvin.edu
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Get to know a ...
At 06:02 PM 3/19/2006, Carol or John Burgeson wrote:
"..Shoot -- I even have Republican friends! They, too, don't wear horns."
@ RINOS do have horns.
"Lincoln Chafee (R) is a genuine mental midget among mental retards in the United States Senate."
Per my post with much more detail, here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600090/posts?page=25#25
~ Janice
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