Re: What Bible?

From: Pim van Meurs <pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Mar 12 2006 - 22:25:43 EST

I fail to see how this shows that the concept of the trinity was present. A few random references but none that develop this concept. In fact the NT, where the concept was truely first developed seems to have added the trinity as a later addition (http://www.godglorified.com/matthew_2819.htm)

I had no idea...

<quote>There is a verse in Matthew that very seldom is mentioned in spite of evidence that has been brought against it. There is a wealth of support in the manuscripts for it. The only problem is there are no manuscripts that contain this verse prior to the fourth century! There is absolutely NO manuscript in any language that contains it prior to the Trinitarian controversies. And the wording of this verse seems to speak in the language of this period, (4th Century) rather than from the time when Jesus spoke. Yet it seems there are few who are willing to weigh the evidence against this passage because of the weight it carries in Church tradition. The verse we will focus on is Matthew 28:19, and the Trinity baptism formula!</quote>

or http://www.abcog.org/nh/trinity.htm

<quote>
The "Trinity" ... fact or fiction? "... the Trinity is a mystery beyond the comprehension of man"
  James F. McBride: The early centuries of the Christian church were riven by fierce dispute regarding the nature of God. Is God a "Trinity"?</quote>
My goodness sakes, things we take for granted nowadays seem to become less clear when looking at their history.
Every time Janice encourages me to take a critical look, I run into yet another fascinating issue. The more we learn the less we know :-)

Thanks Janice

Janice Matchett <janmatch@earthlink.net> wrote: At 08:30 PM 3/12/2006, Robert Schneider wrote:

 I upset some students in my NT Lit. course when I told them that the doctrine of the Trinity was not in the Bible. "But what about the verse, 'There is the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one'?" I pointed out that this text, by the consensus of modern editors, is a scribal addition to the text of 1 John 5. That did not go down well for whom the KJV is THE Bible. - Bob

 @ I'm sure you didn't mean to, but unfortunately you didn't tell them the truth. The doctrine of the Trinity is taught from Genesis to Revelation. You may want to refer them to this information and let them decide for themselves. ~ Janice
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