Re: Social Evolution

*Please help me to clarify here. Is this thread about 'social evolution' or
'biotic evolution'?
*
The discussion evolved several posts ago.

*until David started repeating 'social Darwinism' (7 times in 3 paragraphs)
like it was a scarecrow in a lonely field.*

Huh?

*p.s. the Calvin comment seemed out of bounds*

It was not intended as any kind of dig. I respect and even lean towards the
Calvinistic view of human nature. I think I summarized accurately the
Calvinistic position on "good works" done in the flesh and that it does bear
interesting comparison to "altruistic" behavior in evolutionary theory.

On 1/24/06, Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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> "If you reject social evolution based on prior theological beliefs, aren't
you doing the same thing as those who reject biological evolution based on
the same beliefs?" – David Opderbeck
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> Please help me to clarify here. Is this thread about 'social evolution' or
'biotic evolution'? What's the logic? Is it about 'sociological evolution'
or 'biological evolution'? Or is it about evolutionary ethics, which are
often (or rarely) considered a topic for philosophy?
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> At least I didn't think the thread was about (true, robust) 'social
Darwinism' until David started repeating 'social Darwinism' (7 times in 3
paragraphs) like it was a scarecrow in a lonely field. Reality today shows
that evolutionary theories have penetrated social thought much more deeply
than simple 'Darwinism' might suggest. It would be skirting the issue(s) or
diverting from the (non-legalistic) topic to deny this.
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> "[P]rinciples analogous to Darwin's have operated in the evolution of
societies." – Dr. Allan Harvey
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> Many qualifying questions if a discussion is to be rigorous and fruitful
about this topic.
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> Arago
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> p.s. the Calvin comment seemed out of bounds
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> David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Speaking of a "moral compass" within the context of social Darwinism is no
different than speaking of "irreducible complexity" in traditional
biological evolution.
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Received on Tue Jan 24 18:28:06 2006