Re: Romans 1:20

Thanks for your input Mr. Siemens. How does the greatness of nature point
one to God rather than an impersonal Cosmos? It seems that if the creation
points to a creator, and men are held accounatble for this, then the creation
must point in a way that cannot be mistaken by the open minded (hearted)
observer. Would you agree with this?

Thanks,

Bill Green

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:56:49 -0700, D. F. Siemens, Jr. wrote
> I think that Chased by Bears has the answer. I haven't encountered
> traditions that speak of design. Rather they talk of awe at the greatness
> of nature.
>
> The Greek philosophical tradition viewed the actual world as less
> than perfect because of matter. There was perfection only in the
> idea or form. Dave
>
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:50:39 -0700 "Jim Armstrong" <jarmstro@qwest.net>
> writes:
> I found this as well...
>
> When a man does a piece of work which is admired by all we say that
> it is wonderful; but when we see the changes of day and night, the
> sun, the moon, and the stars in the sky, and the changing seasons
> upon the earth, with their ripening fruits, anyone must realize that
> it is the work of someone more powerful than man Chased by Bears
> (1843-1915): Santec-Yanktonai Sioux
>
> JimA
>
> wgreen8 wrote:
>
> Dear friends at ASA:
>
> Romans 1:20 says that God's "eternal power and divine nature, have
> been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made...
> (NASB)." Two questions arise: What exactly does "divine nature"
> refer to, and how are
>
> these attributes of God made manifest in nature?
>
> I think that it is clear that humans have always had a tendency to
> believe in
> God or gods. In 1911, Brave Buffalo, a Sioux Indian wrote: "When I
> was ten years of age I looked at the land and the rivers, the sky
> above, and the animals around me and could not fail to realize that
> they were made by some great power."
>
> Black Elk also said that it could be seen that the Great Spirit was
> in all nature, and "most importantly," He is above or greater than
> all of these things (the sun, streams, all nature).
>
> Is this because humans perceive design in nature? Or is there some other
>
> rational perception? Or is this perception not rational, not based
> on reason, but mystical?
>
> Thanks for your time and input.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bill Green
Received on Mon Jul 18 22:03:00 2005