Re: YEC refutation

You are wrong!

Love

Henry and Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "David C Campbell" <amblema@bama.ua.edu>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: YEC refutation

> >Is there ONE argument that can be used to show clearly and convincingly
> to a nonscientific person that the earth really really is much older
> than a few thousand years?<
>
> Some simple examples of things that clearly look old:
>
> Rocks that show a history. I have a nice piece of Castle Hayne
> Limestone that contains fossils and pebbles. Some of the pebbles
> contain fossils and pebbles. These pebbles contain sand grains. The
> pebbles have phosphatic coatings on them. Thus, we have a series of
> events:
>
> Sand exists, is buried in carbonate mud.
> Mud hardens into rock.
> Rock broken into small pieces.
> Pieces worn down into round shapes.
> Phosphatic coating forms through a long period of sitting still on the
> sea floor; first set of fossil animals living.
> Pebbles and shells buried in carbonate mud.
> Mud hardens into rock.
> Rock broken into small pieces.
> Pieces worn down into round shapes.
> Phosphatic coating forms through a long period of sitting still on the
> sea floor; second set of fossil animals living.
> Pebbles and shells buried in carbonate mud.
> Mud hardens into rock.
> Shells dissolve away.
> Holes from shells filled with calcite.
> Several additional layers of different kinds of sediment with different
> kinds of fossils deposited on top of the rock (may overlap in time with
> dissolution and filling).
>
> Several underlying layers also have similarly complex histories for the
> rocks in them.
>
> Of course, the standard YEC explanation is that the Flood did all of
> that. However, it has to sequentially do several different things just
> to get this one small rock, and the earth has miles of rock layers that
> must be explained.
>
>
> Plate tectonics
> We can measure the current rate of plate motion-roughly equal to
> fingernail growth. Yet the geologic record shows extensive movement of
> the plates. Evidence includes the direction (both in the horizontal
> and vertical plane) of magnetic traces in the rocks; patterns in the
> sea floor (increasing sediment thickness away from spreading centers;
> decreasing crust temperature away from spreading centers); climate
> changes (the rich microfossil deposits associated with equatorial
> upwelling in the eastern Pacific occur further north and northwest the
> deeper you sample the sediment; equatorial conditions in Triassic
> deposits in southeastern North America; traces of late Paleozoic
> glaciation in what's now the Sahara; etc.); matches between structures
> such as old mountain ranges and ancient rock formations on different
> continents; biogeographic patterns (organisms in common in what are now
> widely scattered locations; drastic differences between what are now
> adjacent areas); and many other pieces of evidence. YEC responses
> include denial of the evidence and rapid plate tectonics. However, the
> latter is in gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics. At
> its current pace, plate tectonics produces most of the volcanism and
> earthquakes around the world. Speed it up and you have correspondingly
> more energy going into volcanism and earthquakes. Also, you need a
> power source to speed it up.
>
> For example, there was an ocean between northwestern Europe and
> northeastern North America. This ocean closed and then the modern
> North Atlantic opened. Also, North America has moved from equatorial
> to its present location during this time interval. Being
> conservative, that's about 9000 km of motion (1000 km of closing, 3000
> km of opening, and 5000 km north, making the unlikely assumption of a
> relatively straight route). Allowing the common YEC claim of an entire
> year for this to take place, that's about 1 km/hr as a very low
> estimate. The tsunamis caused by continents moving that fast would
> quickly sink the ark.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Dr. David Campbell
> 425 Scientific Collections
> University of Alabama, Box 870345
> Tuscaloosa AL 35487
> "James gave the huffle of a snail in
> danger But no one heard him at all" A.
> A. Milne
>
Received on Tue Jun 14 16:34:35 2005