RE: Call me a fideist

From: Glenn Morton <glennmorton@entouch.net>
Date: Mon May 30 2005 - 21:17:54 EDT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vernon Jenkins [mailto:vernon.jenkins@virgin.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:07 PM
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Vernon, I would agree with you except that mathematically one can do
> with
> > any text whatsoever, what you do to the Bible. Such a watermark is not
> > really a watermark unless you can demonstrate that this can ONLY be done
> > for
> > Scripture. Having seen it done with other texts, I know it isn't
> unique.
>
>
> Your words cause me to doubt that you have seriously considered the
> evidence
> I provide. Possibly you are confusing my approach with that of the
> proponents of ELS (Equidistant Letter Sequences). I am aware that they
> have
> encountered problems of the kind you describe.
>
> http://www.nwcreation.net/wiki/index.php?title=The_Beginning_of_Wonders
>
> Vernon

Let's look at your calculation of e from John 1:1. Why is the .0011% error
considered ok? Why shouldn't God get it right rather than have this small
error?

You use one system for your numbering of letters. It isn't the most natural.
One could use alpha =1 and omega= 24 rather than alpha = 1 and omega= 800.
Then your entire numerology would be different, but you would still find
relationships of interest.

I pulled a book at random from my library. It is Pi in the Sky by John D.
Barrow. I opened to the Preface and used the first sentence. It is: There
is safety in numbers. Assigning 1 to A and 26 to Z, and multiplying each
letter by its corresponding value and adding them I get 275 for the value of
this sentence.

Now, there is an amazing relationship in this first sentence which predicts
the exact exponent of Newton's law of gravitation. Given that there are
five words, and the square of 5 is 25 (note that this is raising 5 to the
power of 2 which is the exact exponent of Newton's law of gravitation).
Dividing by 25 we find that the answer is 11. But, there are exactly 22
letters in this 5 word sentence. And if you divide 22 by 11 you get
2--precisely the exponent in Newton's theory. And note how many times 2
appears in this derivation. It appears 6 times. First there are 22 letters,
then there is the power of 2. It appears once in the square of 5 (25) It
appears once in 275. and it appears in the final answer---2. This of
course is twice the number of the trinity.

Now, if you add the numbers used in the above calculation you have
22+275+5+2+25+2= 331. This is the 67th prime. If you add the digits of 331
you get 7, which is another prime. 67 itself is a prime--three primes to
represent the trinity again. If you multiply 7*67*331 you get 155239. What
do you get if you add the digits of 155239 up? Why you get 25, the square
of the number of words in the first sentence of Pi in the Sky.

Now, if you look at the 7, 67, and 331 and you multiply them by pairs

7*67 = 469
7* 331 = 2317
67 * 331 = 22177

Adding the digits of these 3 numbers yield the primes 19, 13, 19
respectively. These numbers yield 2 different primes--precisely the
exponent in Newton's theory of gravity.

If you take 22177-2317-469 you get 19391. Adding the digits of this number
gives 23. Adding the digits of 23, yields 5, the number of words in Barrows
sentence. Notice that we added two times--precisely the exponent number in
Newton's theory of gravitation.

Multiplying 19*13 gives 247 which if the digits are added gives 13. This is
another clue. 1+3=4 and 4 is the square of the exact number used in Newton's
theory of gravitation as the exponent. To get the square of 2 you have to
use two 2's, which is what you need to describe the number of letters in
Barrow's first sentence. And 3-1 = 2, the exact exponent of Newton's
theory of gravitation.

If you add the digits in both 19 and 13 you get 14 which if you then add
those digits you get 5. Note that we iterated the addition twice, meaning
the factor of 2 appears here which appears as the exponent in Newton's
theory of gravity.

Adding 19+13 you get 32 which if the digits are added, you get the number of
words in Barrow's sentence. Once again iterating the addition twice yields a
significant number.

 How could Barrow have known that he was writing such a fabulous sentence
with such a clear message encoded in it? Clearly this is a deeply inspired
(not to mention inspiring) book. God clearly has some special plan for the
writer John D. Barrow.

Vernon, this is why I don't believe what you do about mathematically encoded
messages in Genesis 1.
Received on Mon May 30 21:19:44 2005

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