Re: ASA, ID, Blogs and my observations

As often happens when we get into one of these exchanges, you end up totally misrepresenting my position. I have always insisted that the cross & resurrection of Jesus (among other things) are claims for which there is good supporting evidence as "tangible realities." & if you again make your hilarious assertion that there is more evidence for your resuscitated 5 Myr mutant ape fantasy than for the resurrection of Jesus I really will wonder if you're the village idiot.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: glennmorton@entouch.net
  To: asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:58 AM
  Subject: RE: ASA, ID, Blogs and my observations

  This is a reply first to George then to Wayne:

  George wrote:

>The "poor me" rhetoric doesn't work very well for you, even when it's tongue in check, because we all know quite well that you're not >the village idiot. It's your obvious intelligence and knowledge of a wide range of data in different fields that make it so surprising >when you do come up with a really goofy claim and then defend it to the death.

  George, in order for it to be really 'poor me' rhetoric, I would actually have to care what y'all think of me. I don't. Don't flatter yourself in that regard. My point with that was precisely what I said to my friend as a statement of fact. Y'all think I am the village idiot. You then posted a 'disappointment' email about how could I possibly believe what I was writing. I found it absolutely hilarious that you posted what you did, in the precise timing that you did.

  The day we Christians give up on design, we fall into what my good friend, Wil Provine fell into. Without design, there is little reason to belive in any form of theism. This is why Provine left the faith. He personally told me that. When he realized that this was a world without design, he could find no reason to keep God in it. Thus Wil became an atheist. I for one, think Wil is right. No design, no designer; no designer, no God. You all seem to want to deny design (in any tangible form) but then deny the logical conclusion therein. This is, was and will forever be my biggest frustration with the ASA. In my book there is not much more logic here than in the YEC movement. You all say the Bible is true even while saying that it states nothing about reality. Sorry, George, I simply don't believe you when you say that you really think it means something real. If it doesn't say something real about tangible reality it might as well be talking about leprechauns. And you always fail to say exactly what it is that the Bible says about tangible reality which can be trusted. (You always talk about its theology being right, but you can't possibly know that without taking the tautological, fideist position--which is: My theology is right because it is the right theology; it is the right theology because the Bible teaches it. I believe the Bible's theology).

  Wayne wrote:

>It was meant as humor. I'm not even sure how many Fosters would be needed to improve my view of Vegimite. I think
>I've run into mao tai before, but if my memory is correct, it's a bit strong.

  'A bit strong' is a wee bit of an understatement. One could remove battleship paint with that stuff. Unfortunately, it is the social grease that makes business move in China. Fortunately, I have only had to have one mao tai dinner since arriving in China, but boy did I feel bad going to bed that night. (felt ok in the morning, but my geophysical manager didn't and he is a renown drinker)
Received on Mon May 23 19:18:48 2005