RE: Today's blogs at the Post-Darwinist 2005 05 22

Denyse wrote:

I stand by "dozy" because I don't think ASA grasps the SIGNIFICANCE of Phillip Johnson's point that few zealous naturalists would see any important difference between Dembski and Miller.

The "SIGNIFICANCE" I see is that this is another typical off-the-wall comment by one who has no qualifications in either theology or science. And what is a "zealous naturalist"? Does Francis Collins (head of the human genome mapping project) qualify? In fact, I don't know anyone with bona fide credentials in genetics who isn't a "naturalist." What would make them "zealous"?

Dick Fischer - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org

----- Original Message -----
From: Denyse O'Leary
To: Iain Strachan
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Sent: 5/22/2005 8:31:52 AM
Subject: RE: Today's blogs at the Post-Darwinist 2005 05 22

Fair enough. But it is the organization I called "dozy," not the people.

(People always behave worse in organizations.)

And the naturalists have almost all the power in science today, as you very well know.

You will be classed on the ID side even if you cash in your career to spend all your time attacking Dembski. (Please don't interpret me as suggesting that anyone would waste their time like that; I am saying that if you did, it wouldn't change anything.)

cheers, Denyse

-----Original Message-----
From: Iain Strachan [mailto:igd.strachan@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:14 AM
To: Denyse O'Leary
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: Today's blogs at the Post-Darwinist 2005 05 22

Denyse,

I don't think you're going to achieve anything other than antagonise the ASA list members, by referring to ASA as a "dozy organization". Insulting people rarely achieves anything constructive.

Iain

On 5/22/05, Denyse O'Leary <oleary@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Today's blogs at the Post-Darwinist 2005 05 22

American Scientific Affiliation rejects claim that it promotes intelligent
design

According to ASA executive director Randy Isaac, "While some prominent ASA
members such as George Murphy and Keith Miller, both cited in Nature 434,
1062-1065 (28 April 2005), are critics of ID, other members such as William
Dembski are advocates of the movement."

Good thing Dembski had enough sense to stay a member of that dozy
organization, but really, isn't it time for them to just wake up and smell
the house burning?

Read more at http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/

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