RE: Nature article on ID

For the Christian the whole mystery of creation is contained in the
following verses:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being
through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come
into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The
Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
John 1:1-5.

Can we fathom its meaning? I can't!

Moorad

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To: Iain Strachan
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Subject: Re: Nature article on ID

Iain Strachan wrote:

>
>
> Instead I see God's providential care in that the universe keeps on
> running ("creator and sustainer") - if you pursue the algorithm
> analogy, it's what supplies the power to the computer that's running
> the algorithm. Or as Stephen Hawking put it in the last chapter of
> "Brief History of Time" : "What is it that breathes fire into the
> equations?".
>
> But more than that, surely God's providential care is exhibited in the
> fact that he has revealed himself to us through Scripture, and in the
> ultimate intervention, as Jesus Christ, giving us the gift of
> everlasting life. But these interventions are to do with His
> relationship to us, and not in fixing an imperfect creation so that we
> might come about. I would suggest that he got that bit right, right
> "in the beginning".
>
> Iain.
>
>
> --
> -----------
> There are 3 types of people in the world.
> Those who can count and those who can't.
> -----------

I would suggest a different viewpoint altogether.

I do not see God as acting "within time" at all. Time is as internal
property of the universe (space time continuum) that God created. As you
say. He did not strike a match and then watch, because "watching"
implies that he is constrained by time like we are. When God created
this space-time continuum, He got what he wanted by definition. How he
did -- or does -- all this is speculation.

The naturalist assumes that He does not interact on a physical basis.
Others assume that that universe would simply collapse if God were no
longer to exist -- and that He well may play an active role at specific
space-time points, such as earth 2000 years ago.

Walt

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Received on Mon May 2 09:27:56 2005