Re: James Kennedy and his YEC teachings

Is it a coincidence that the origin of the word "penis" is Latin, meaning
"tail?"

Etymology: Latin, penis, tail; akin to Old High German faselt penis, Greek
peos

Primitive cultures often revere the phallus in their rites. I wonder if that
was going on in Job's time. It was primitive back then.

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From: "Mike Tharp" <mtharp@exammaster.com>
To: "'Stephen J.Krogh, P.G.'" <panterragroup@mindspring.com>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: James Kennedy and his YEC teachings

> Thanks for sharing this. I'd never seen this interpretation before.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of Stephen J.Krogh, P.G.
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:22 PM
> To: Mike Tharp; 'gordon brown'; 'John and Carol Burgeson'
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: James Kennedy and his YEC teachings
>
> The "tail like a cedar," which creationists think indicates a large
> dinosaur, is not even a real tail. "Tail" when used in conjunction with
> "stones" was used as a euphemism in the King James version. A more likely
> translation for the phrase is, "His penis stiffens like a cedar" (Mitchell
> 1987). The behemoth was probably a bull, and the cedar comparison referred
> to its virility. Is that the characteristic of a cedar that Job was
> comparing it to? The behemoth was probably a bull, and the cedar
comparison
> referred to its virility. Other possibilities for the behemoth are a
> hippopotamus, a rhinoceros, and an elephant. Of these, the hippopotamus
and
> the elephant like to be near water, and the hippopotamus lives the closest
> to the Middle East.
>
> 1.. Mitchell, 1987. The Book of Job. North Point Press, San Francisco,
CA.
> Cited in Pennock, Robert, Tower of Babel, p. 217.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Tharp" <mtharp@exammaster.com>
> To: "'gordon brown'" <gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu>; "'John and Carol
> Burgeson'" <burgytwo@juno.com>
> Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:15 PM
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>
> > Even some of my liberal commentaries point out that hippopotamus is most
> > likely not an appropriate translation for behemoth, which is described
as
> > having a "tail like a cedar." One commentary suggests an elephant, with
> the
> > "tail like a cedar" describing its trunk.
> >
> > Descriptions in Job of both behemoth and leviathan sound unlike any
> creature
> > we can currently identify. Could they be creatures now extinct? I
think
> > that's a possibility. Or perhaps these were descriptions of mythical
> beasts
> > that never existed but were merely conjured by man's imagination? I
would
> > say unlikely but, again, a possibility.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> > Behalf Of gordon brown
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:18 PM
> > To: John and Carol Burgeson
> > Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> > Subject: Re: James Kennedy and his YEC teachings
> >
> > The most obvious interpretation of behemoth and leviathan is that they
are
> > the hippopotamus and crocodile. I think this is traditional. These are
> > given in the margin of my NASB as alternative translations. This is
> > another example of YECs bypassing the obvious meanings of a passage in
> > order to claim support for their pseudoscience.
> >
> > Gordon Brown
> > Department of Mathematics
> > University of Colorado
> > Boulder, CO 80309-0395
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, John and Carol Burgeson wrote:
> >
> > > I was challenged to back up my claim that the revered and famous James
> > > Kennedy might be (gasp) a YEC advocate.
> > >
> > > I heard him preach once on the YEC view while driving through Texas;
> that
> > > was a few years ago. Eugenie Scott identifies him as such in her
latest
> > > book "Evolution vs Creationism." But I could have been mistaken. So I
> > > went to his web site for a look.
> > >
> > > The obvious link is:
> > >
> > > http://www.coralridge.org/imp/impact030511.aspx
> > >
> > > Here is part of what Kennedy says:
> > >
> > > CSI to Go Digging for Dinosaurs
> > >
> > > Dinosaurs are a hit with young and old. At any museum around the world
> > > you will always find a crowd where the dinosaur bones are exhibited.
And
> > > now those dull bony skeletons are being replaced with new animatronic
> > > models that roar. The American Museum of Natural History in New York
> City
> > > will launch a new exhibit in May that will seek to answer the
question:
> > > "What did dinosaurs look like with skin on?" and "How did they move?"
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Behemoth
> > > The Bible also speaks of dinosaurs. God paints a great picture of
a
> > > gigantic dinosaur in his conversation with Job in Job 40. He asks Job
to
> > > look at the "behemoth," a word equivalent to what we call "dinosaur,"
> and
> > > tells Job that the dinosaur was contemporaneous with man, having been
> > > "made along with you" (Job 40:15). This expression indicates that man
> and
> > > dinosaur coexisted together. The universal appeal of dinosaurs is
> > > recognized in God's description of the dinosaur. He told Job they
"rank
> > > first (chief) among the works of God" (Job 40:19).
> > > The lessons to be learned from dinosaurs in museums, movie
> theatres,
> > > and the news media differs sharply from what the Bible presents.
Public
> > > educators teach children that dinosaurs evolved over millions of
years,
> > > and lived long before man. "It is an absolute tragedy that God made
> > > dinosaurs to attract us to Him, and now they are used to divert our
> > > attention away from Him and towards the evolutionary thinking," said
Tom
> > > DeRosa, Executive Director of the Creation Studies Institute. "These
> > > creatures of magnificent stature and great variety demonstrate
> excellence
> > > in all areas, and had one basic purpose, and that was to draw us to
our
> > > loving Creator."
> > >
> > > Montana Dig
> > > CSI will help restore a right appreciation of dinosaurs, July
> 25-29,
> > > when it sponsors a Dinosaur Dig in Glendive, Montana. This event, open
> to
> > > the public, offers participants the opportunity to join Otis Kline and
> > > Joe Taylor, expert creation paleontologists, and Tom DeRosa to
> experience
> > > the thrill of excavating the Hell Creek Formation in the Badlands of
> > > Montana. ... Participants will not only be taught paleontology from a
> > > creationist viewpoint during the day, but will also be taught in the
> > > evenings how to "Stand Firm on Genesis." CSI's primary goal for this
> > > Dinosaur Dig is to strengthen and equip Christians with a unique,
> > > hands-on experience-giving our Creator all the glory.
> > >
> > > Burgy
> > >
> >
>
>
Received on Thu Mar 3 19:05:30 2005