Re: The Oldest Homo Sapiens: Fossils Push Human Emergence Back To 195,000 Years Ago

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed Mar 02 2005 - 12:48:51 EST
Hi Jack, you wrote:

Is there evidence or not for genetic mingling between neanderthal and sapiens?

There is, but like all the evidence in man's origins it does not make an airtight case.  Neanderthals had red hair.  As you know, black hair is the norm for all races outside of Europe where the Neanderthals were concentrated.  Intermixing of H sapiens with Neanderthals might explain why only Caucasians have light hair.  Also, Neanderthals had a sloping forehead, heavy jaw, and a bun at the base of their skulls that acted as a counterweight so their heads would stay straight.  Caucasians who originate from Europe have a flat forehead and a small bump at the base of their skulls.  Neanderthals had a heavy build and Caucasians from that area tend to be heavier in build than other racial types.

Again, this does not make a conclusive case.

Dick said:

"And what "evidence" will they include?  How about the evidence that shows man and ape share some of the same genetic code?  Think they'll work that in?  They had better read a little from Leaky, Johannson and Wolpoff before they make monkeys out of themselves."

They claim they will use the latest genetic evidence yes.  I have not yet heard what they are going to say about it.  I will pass it on, but I doubt you will listen to anything they have to say Dick.

Ross is committed to a belief regardless of the data.  We talked years ago and he told me he offered to spend three days with the YEC crowd in San Diego in an effort to convince them.  They gave him his three days and were unpersuaded by it.  So I made him the same offer which he refused.  He's willing to teach, but not willing to learn.  That attitude only gets us into trouble.

I would like to hear constructive, rational corrections/criticisms of what they have to say, ad hominems are inappropriate and are not constructive.

I agree.  But if an apologist opens his mouth and closes his ears he deserves criticism.  And this is broadly true across the spectrum - Kennedy, Colson, Ross, etc.  Don't bother them with facts when they "got the truth."

Dick said:

"Do you think they want criticism?  God forbid they might actually learn something in the process!"

I dont know.  I think anyone that is honest with themselves knows that there is always something to learn.  It is not possible for any of us to know everthing.

And that's the value of a forum like this.  Ross could at least put one of his minions here and do a little research.

Dick Fischer  - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org
Received on Wed Mar 2 12:50:13 2005

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