Re: More fusillades in the ID wars

Before everybody bleats too much, please consider the faults of YECs and Ids
in the public sphere.

One only has to consider the sheer falsity of YEC views which are then
attempted to be forced into the school curriculum.
Also Johnson and Wells with their misrepresentations and IDs with their
whole dismissal of anything Darwinian (whatever that means).

Add to that the forcing out of evangelicals in colleges like Wonderly and
this dismissal of the likes of Dave Young as "supposedly evangelical" .

If Sternberg is silly enough to belong to the Baraminology group then he has
only himself to blame.

I reckon that between them YECs and IDers have done much to step up the
culture wars against Christians and have spread it throughout the world
including to Britain where there were absolutely no problems 30 years ago.
They have provided more than enough for the ACLU and Dawkins clones to
behave the way do. (I offer no defence for the Smithsonian as I dont know
what they have done.)

For too long evangelicals have failed to challenge the major falsity of YEC
and the political stridency and inaccuracies of ID as in Johnson. But then
of course evangelicals are divided over Genesis for starters.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Davis" <TDavis@messiah.edu>
To: <Dawsonzhu@aol.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: More fusillades in the ID wars

> >>> <Dawsonzhu@aol.com> 2/1/2005 6:52:40 PM >>>Wayne writes:
>
> Did anyone notice the bitter irony of this? A _Catholic_ who
> is now being charged as a heretic by a new brand of ideologues
> who use the Galileo image as justification for rejecting the
> institution. It took the Catholic church 400 years to forgive
> Galileo... Are we seeing the reverse problem happening?
>
> Ted replies:
> Yes, I made this very point (except the part about Sternberg being a
> Catholic, b/c at the time I understood wrongly that he was Eastern
Orthodox)
> to Sternberg's vicious critics on pandasthumb.org last fall, the very
point
> about strong parallels between their response to Sternberg and the
church's
> response to Galileo. Galileo went through the appropriate editorial
> procedues (official censors in his case), his work came out, and then it
hit
> the fan and they ruined him. Ditto Sternberg.
>
> They didn't appreciate my point on pandasthumb, so I took the pleasure of
> reminding them yesterday that I called this shot. If they don't like what
> the WSJ wrote, it's their own stinkin' fault. They need only look in the
> mirror to see whom to blame.
>
> ted
>
>
>
Received on Wed Feb 2 12:20:56 2005