jack syme wrote:
> Ed,
>
> You want science to be based on a philosophy that is false because
> there is no supernatural foundation.
>
> But, the evidence does not fit that claim. Do you really think that
> all of science is inaccurate?
No. I think I healthy skepticism of science is a good idea, not a
rejection of it.
> I dont really think you think that. Do you go to a doctor that
> practices western medicine, or do you use faith healing alone? Would
> you choose a doctor based solely on whether they were a Christian or not?
>
> The truth is that God exists, and acts supernaturally in the
> universe. And scientists study that universe and the laws that God
> has created. And some scientists will acknowledge that the only
> reason there is a universe worth studying is because of the God who
> created it. But, some dont look or believe in anything beyond the
> natural, even though they cant see that they couldnt be doing science
> without a Creator. But that doesnt mean that the science they do is
> no good, and not full of Truth.
>
> And this is not unique to science. Do musicians have to assume there
> is a supernatural to make music? Do poets have to assume there is a
> God? Or mathemeticians? Yet all of us, of every profession,
> vocation, every calling, use the fundamental laws that God created,
> with or without acknowledging the supernatural foundation. There are
> plenty of great atheist painters, and there are bad Christian poets.
Yet, none of them are trying to discover the history and fabric of the
creation and make truth claims about it at the level that science does.
>
> The place to use the presuppositional arguments Ed, imo, is not here.
> The people doing science here agree that there is a supernatural
> foundation. They agree that they are working within the laws of God.
> The place to use presuppositionalism is with the scientists who are
> atheists/agnostics.
>
> I my opinion, you are making an error in logic by making the claim
> that if one doesnt accept a supernatural presupposition, then whatever
> that person does is false because the foundation is false.
This sentence is in direct conflict with your previous one. If this is
not the place to talk about presuppositions, and then make an argument
about presuppositions yourself.
> Something along the lines of "all good things come from God, therefore
> if it doesnt come from God it isnt good."
And you would say this statement is false?
>
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-- ....................................................................................... The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart - Alexander Solzhenitsyn ....................................................................................... Edward J. Hassertt Reason By Faith Auburn, Washington http://www.reasonbyfaith.org Christian Legal Discussion: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advocatusdeus/Received on Mon Jan 24 12:42:49 2005
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