Re: Cobb County

Vernon,
You speak out of ignorance. I've produced no end of gluteal agony among
those I have felt to be wrong. On the other hand, you see only ONE
problem which results from eisegesis. I made note of several
controversial areas which you ignored. I did not mention your hobby, and
you tax me with it. I have to conclude that you cannot see reality
because your obsession blinds you to all else.

You speak of "healthy criticism of an unproven (and unprovable) theory."
Technically, you are right, for no scientific theory can be strictly
proved. But we do observe and fit our observations into logically
consistent structures. When they have a reasonable amount of support,
they are known as theories. N.B., in the context of science, "theory"
does not mean "guess". For example, astronomers observe the heavens. They
note that some things they observe have displaced spectral patterns. For
some, they have a measure of distance based on cepheids, novae, and other
things that they observe. The more distant galaxies have spectra
displaced more toward the red. The rational explanation is that this
spectral displacement is a matter of Doppler shift. No absorption
produces a shift, only reduced intensity, similar to the effect of
distance. Extrapolating from the galaxies whose distance can be
reasonably determined as described to dimmer galaxies and their greater
red shift, they calculate that 13.7 x 10^9 years ago, all the matter they
see was collected at one central point. That is, the universe we observe
is about 13,700,000,000 years old. If the Creator produced this universe
about 6000 years ago so that any rational observer thinks it is billions
of years old, he is deliberately deceitful. Bluntly, your deity is a
liar. I once believed as you do (without numerology). It was only by the
grace of God that I did not chuck my faith when I discovered that what I
had been told the Bible taught was false. Six-day creationists have been
responsible for many shipwrecks.

I could pile up additional evidences that your position makes God a liar
many times over. I shan't. I choose my battles so as to defend truth. I
do vigorously oppose scientism, materialism, dogmatic naturalism, all
positions which deny the God who is Truth.
Dave

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:07:31 -0000 "Vernon Jenkins"
<vernon.jenkins@virgin.net> writes:
Dave,

It interests me that you TEs invariably remain silent when these
educational controversies arise. Clearly, by so doing you provide tacit
support for those who have no knowledge of the Spirit of truth (John
16:13). Shouldn't all Christians be actively involved in encouraging
healthy criticism of an unproven (and unprovable) theory that has,
manifestly, borne so much evil fruit?

Vernon
www.otherbiblecode.com

----- Original Message -----
From: D. F. Siemens, Jr.
To: vernon.jenkins@virgin.net
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Cobb County

Let's see. I have recently come across controversy about the origin of
AIDS, about the use of polio vaccine (and the consequent spread of polio
to several African countries where it has been controlled), about cell
phones and high tension lines, infant vaccines and autism, and probably
others.
Dave
Received on Sun Jan 16 23:24:12 2005