Re: appendix

Someone posted on this list a few months ago saying that
there is really no evidence that there was a change in the
fertility of the soil during the time of Adam. So my
first question would be is this "curse" literal or
figurative?

Similarly, the other curses listed directly as a result of
the Fall, was that women were to have painful childbirth,
and the snake was made to slither on the ground. I dont
know if there was any evidence for painful childbirth
before Adam's time, but certainly serpents were present
long before.

But, even given that, these are the only changes in
creation that ocurrs, directly, from Original Sin. The
main result is the separation of Man from God, and death
coming to all Men. Not the basic laws of nature.

There is all this talk in the other thread about the 2nd
Law of thermodynamics. I thought this was initially
brought up because some in the YEC community actually
think that Entropy, is a result of Original Sin.

My point is that the universe when it was created was very
good, and it is still very good. The Fall of Man has had
very little effect on the goodness of creation.

I also dont accept the notion that there is some yet
future Earth in which there will be no natural disasters,
no diseases, etc. I dont see any biblical support for
George's idea that the universe was created imperfectly,
and both the Earth, and Man are in need of redemption
through Christ. Man certainly, not the Earth.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:19:56 -0600
  "Charles Carrigan" <CCarriga@olivet.edu> wrote:
>All,
>
>Over the last couple of days, I've seen several
>individuals post items
>that in my mind are variations on this:
>
>>>> RFaussette@aol.com> 1/4/2005 11:31:05 AM >>
>(as Adam is the only part of creation that's "broken").
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>For those that would agree with Rich's statement here,
>I'm curious as
>to how you interpret Gen. 3:14-19. I'll let you all look
>up the entire
>passage on your own, but v. 17 is critical to the
>discussion here, which
>says "Cursed is the ground because of you" (God speaking
>to Adam). God
>does not curse Adam per se, but rather curses the ground,
>causing Adam
>difficulty in growing/harvesting food.
>
>Is the ground cursed, or not? How is "cursed" different
>from "broken"?
>
>
>Regards,
>Charles
>
>
>
Received on Tue Jan 4 16:54:22 2005