Re: How to interpret Adam (was: Re: Kerkut)

George wrote:

>Dick Fischer wrote:
>
> > This sounds like an argument coming from one who believes there was a flesh
> > and blood human being - Adam. Someone "trespassed." We agree. When do
> > you think he lived?
>
> No, it sounds like someone trying to understand what Paul was
> getting at. He
>was operating with a picture of a flesh & blood Adam in Gen.2 & 3. What
>he was using
>that picture for was (among other things) to say that the sin of humanity
>in its origin
>brought about a condition of sinfulness & condemnation for all humans.

A "picture of" Adam? No real Adam though? I frankly don't know how a
parallel can be drawn between a non-existent figurehead and a flesh and
blood Christ. The first Adam was non-existent, the other really was? Then
how does this work: 1Cor 15:45: "And so it is written, The first man Adam
was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

What is a "living soul"?

> > During World War II, the Nazi dictator, Adolf Hitler, was responsible for
> > the senseless and tragic eradication of 6 million innocent Jewish
> > civilians. Were the Jews sinners? Of course, "there is none righteous, no
> > not one" (Rom 3:10). Was the Nazi dictator, by his insane decree, directly
> > responsible for the death of those Jews? Yes, he was. Is it accurate to
> > say that death passed upon all of them due to the sin of one man? Yes, it
> > is. Were those 6 million who died descendants of the Nazi
> > dictator? Obviously not.
>
> 1st, Hitler wasn't responsible for the fact that the Jews for
> whose death he was
>responsible were, qua sinners, under condemnation.

As is everyone not saved.

> & 2d, how did the action of Adam, in
>your scenario, bring about the condemnation of his Mesoamerican
>contemporaries?

I don't know if it did. I don't know how the nearby Sumerians were
affected. Simply an opportunity lost I suppose.

Dick Fischer - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org
Received on Fri Mar 5 23:15:21 2004