RE: Whimpy Roots

Bill, I believe I have agreed with you that partings in Paleozoic coals are
very tough to explain several times before. And I have no problem with some
coals being allochthonous. But the fact that some coals are allochthonous
doesn't require that EVERY coal be allochthonous, as you have seemed to
require in a global flood model. If even ONE coal is rooted, your view has
severe problems--indeed, it is falsified. I would point you to the organic
rich shale (almost a coal) recovered from one Colorado well from 7000+ feet
down. It shows 10 years of plant growth--ten layers of roots.
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/roots.gif

But if f some coals are allochthonous with partings caused by widespread
covering by marine conditions, it really doesn't hurt the old-earth idea at
all. My statement to you at times why you grab ahold of this one straw to
save your beleifs is: so what if some coals are allochthonous. If some
aren't, the global flood couldn't have happened.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
> Behalf Of Bill Payne
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:38 PM
> To: glennmorton@entouch.net
> Cc: ksharman@pris.bc.ca; asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Whimpy Roots
>
>
> Hey Glenn,
>
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:08:28 -0500 <glennmorton@entouch.net> writes:
>
> > Bill, when one wants really badly to believe something, one will go
> > to great lengths to explain discrepancies. Face it, the simplest
> > explanation is that the roots grew in place.
>
> What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I agree, Glenn, in
> situ is indeed the simplest explanation for isolated vertical roots, and
> it may even be the correct one.
>
> Now, will you agree with me that the simplest way to preserve delicate,
> thin, widespread partings is not to lift them above the base-level of
> erosion and start growing "pioneering vegetation" roots through the
> partings? Will you agree that grass, shrubs and trees growing in swamps
> do have roots that sink into and bioturbate their substrate? Will you
> agree that a single stand of pioneering vegetation is not sufficient to
> support the entire root structure of all subsequent vegetation, and will
> you agree that trees don't have to wait on a meter-thick layer of
> pioneering-vegetation peat to accumulate before they bagin to grow, that
> trees can and do begin growing in moist soil (and therefore could grow in
> a bare parting - without veggie litter), and that trees growing in wet
> soil can and do sink their roots below the water table?
>
> Face it, Glenn, the simplest explanation is that partings in coal were
> buried under water by floating organic debris.
>
> Bill
>
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Received on Wed Mar 3 07:08:32 2004